José Mário dos Santos Félix Mourinho

grecian · 28-04-2010, 03:17 PM

Okay, a man that definitely polarises opinion.

Charismatic genius, or narcissistic idjit.

Or both perhaps, I though his celebration was a joke tonight, just playing for the cameras IMHO.

sledger · 28-04-2010, 03:17 PM

Love Mourinho.

PhoenixFire · 28-04-2010, 03:19 PM

AWTA, WAG. Love him.

BoyBrumby · 28-04-2010, 03:24 PM

Serious god complex and his teams play some plop football, but one can't help have grudging respect for the way he somehow manages to walk it like he talks it.

A Brain Clough for the 21st century with better suits and worse football IMHO.

grecian · 28-04-2010, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

Serious god complex and his teams play some plop football, but one can't help have grudging respect for the way he somehow manages to walk it like he talks it.

A Brain Clough for the 21st century with better suits and worse football IMHO.

Nah disagree, in fact get very irritated by this being reiterated. Clough told his players not to argue with refs, and try to play football in the right way.He was also very gracious in defeat.

Both Charismatic, that's where it ends really.

Samuel_Vimes · 28-04-2010, 03:34 PM

****. Obviously. That's what people like isn't it?

BoyBrumby · 28-04-2010, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by grecian

Nah disagree, in fact get very irritated by this being reiterated. Clough told his players not to argue with refs, and try to play football in the right way.He was also very gracious in defeat.

Both Charismatic, that's where it ends really.

From different ends of the tactical spectrum, obv, but both handsome egotists with a talent for the mot juste.

Don't really enjoy watching his teams, but the Prem's a less colourful place without him.

grecian · 28-04-2010, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

From different ends of the tactical spectrum, obv, but both handsome egotists with a talent for the mot juste.

Don't really enjoy watching his teams, but the Prem's a less colourful place without him.

Well he's better looking then Clough, and less of a drunk, obviously. Of course the other thing they have in common is the ego, which they'd be well-matched in I guess.

BoyBrumby · 28-04-2010, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by grecian

Well he's better looking then Clough, and less of a drunk, obviously. Of course the other thing they have in common is the ego, which they'd be well-matched in I guess.

Maybe, but the younger Clough was pretty dashing, tbf:

A man for whom a treble was not so much an ambition as a breakfast.

Uppercut · 28-04-2010, 05:34 PM

I think he's brilliant. If he was a fictional character he'd be universally adored.

Pothas · 28-04-2010, 06:25 PM

Yeah love him as well.

As for the Clough thing, I am looking forward to watching the film in 30 years time about his doomed 44 day spell in charge of Barcelona.

vcs · 28-04-2010, 07:19 PM

Voted "WAC", assuming "C" stands for what I'm thinking of. Hate the narcissistic, ugly-football-playing bastard. Comes from the Benitez school of "tactical genius" which is just another way of saying "nick a goal or two on the counter and defend for your lives with 11 men for the rest of the game".

vcs · 28-04-2010, 07:24 PM

Can't put together a decent team without an unlimited cheque-book, can't bring through a player from the youth system, and gets a bunch of superstars to play like Greece in Euro 2004. I hate his general footballing philosophy. Yeah, tactical genius. He can coach 11 men to defend brilliantly, I'll give him that.

BoyBrumby · 29-04-2010, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by vcs

Can't put together a decent team without an unlimited cheque-book, can't bring through a player from the youth system, and gets a bunch of superstars to play like Greece in Euro 2004. I hate his general footballing philosophy. Yeah, tactical genius. He can coach 11 men to defend brilliantly, I'll give him that.

Not quite true; won both the Wafer Cup in 2003 & (much more impressively) Champions League in 2004 with Porto; only team since Ajax in 95 to win it from outside of the big four leagues. Not exactly paupers, but not in the Real/Man U league either.

vcs · 29-04-2010, 01:08 AM

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Not quite true; won both the Wafer Cup in 2003 & (much more impressively) Champions League in 2004 with Porto; only team since Ajax in 95 to win it from outside of the big four leagues. Not exactly paupers, but not in the Real/Man U league either.

Yeah, he did do well with Porto, to be fair. I guess I just can't stand him, his insistence on two defensive midfielders, and the way he gets his teams to dive around. Not to mention the tapping up of Ashley Cole, the moaning, the "Special One" rubbish, and his legion of fanboys in the press.

And I HATE the way the press makes it as though it's always about him, win, lose or draw. I'd prefer the spotlight to be on the footballers, not the manager. Apparently, it's a "tactical masterclass" when he gets his side to defend with ten men, but would he have accepted defeat with grace if he had lost in a similar manner? No, he would have accused the other side of "parking the bus".

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28-04-2010, 03:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
grecian International Coach Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hanging on ! Posts: 11,259	José Mário dos Santos Félix Mourinho Okay, a man that definitely polarises opinion. Charismatic genius, or narcissistic idjit. Or both perhaps, I though his celebration was a joke tonight, just playing for the cameras IMHO. __________________ Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes. Walt Whitman

28-04-2010, 03:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,581	Serious god complex and his teams play some plop football, but one can't help have grudging respect for the way he somehow manages to walk it like he talks it. A Brain Clough for the 21st century with better suits and worse football IMHO. __________________ *- As featured in The Independent.* "This is not the time for namby-pamby promising youngsters who might just do something; not the time for building for the future. Pragmatism rules and they don't come more pragmatic than Rogers." - Victor Marks makes the case for stiff-legged and stiff-armed 35 year old left-handers in Ashes squads

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sledger Spanish_Vicente Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: cricsim, lol Posts: 28,021	Love Mourinho.

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Pothas Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Surbiton, UK Posts: 8,416	Yeah love him as well. As for the Clough thing, I am looking forward to watching the film in 30 years time about his doomed 44 day spell in charge of Barcelona.

28-04-2010, 07:24 PM	#13 (permalink)
vcs International Coach Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: India Posts: 10,305	Can't put together a decent team without an unlimited cheque-book, can't bring through a player from the youth system, and gets a bunch of superstars to play like Greece in Euro 2004. I hate his general footballing philosophy. Yeah, tactical genius. He can coach 11 men to defend brilliantly, I'll give him that.

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