A.F.L. Thread II

[benchmark00]

I'm sure Fremantle fans will look like Prince William compared to Queenslanders.

[SirBloody Idiot]

Freo fans are fine. Even in success they are grounded because they understand failure.

It is the Eagles fans that are the *****.

[archie mac]

Loved the Carlton V Pies match great footy

Lets hope the Saits lose every game this year, the way they played Friday night was a disgrace to footy

[Jono]

West Coast have the 2nd worst skill level in the AFL, just behind Richmond.

[mikeW]

Good to get a win even if Hawthorn are complete rubbish.

[benchmark00]

Originally Posted by Jono

West Coast have the 2nd worst skill level in the AFL, just behind Richmond.

Yeah, atrocious skill level. Deplorable.

[Matt79]

Originally Posted by mikeW

Good to get a win even if Hawthorn are complete rubbish.

Good to see you back after your self-imposed, post-Anzac Day hiatus

[Mr Casson]

Here is the updated sheet. It now includes inside 50s as well.

I've used that to try and figure out two things: how many disposals it takes to get the ball into the forward line, and also how many entries into forward fifties result in goals. Funnily enough, even with Brownola, Brisbane rank poorly for conversion from I50s to goals. Does this mean there is some serious punishment coming up for their opponents when they get it right?

Another thing I found interesting is that Richmond's stats suggest that they aren't particularly bad at getting the ball forward, it just takes their opponents so much less time and effort to hurt them the other way. When you consider that their tackle count is comfortably the lowest in the league this makes sense.

And if you needed an excuse to chuck away disposal efficiency as a stat, consider that Richmond had the highest DE% of any team in Round 6. Adelaide were third. I'm still not willing to totally disregard it though, because you can see that DE% seems to correlate with tackle counts. Fremantle fell just one tackle short of Essendon's season record (107), set on the weekend. On both occasions their opponents recorded the worst DE% of the round, which backs up what I wrote last week about these percentages telling you more about each team on a week-to-week basis rather than the league as a whole. It's also better insight into which teams are the best at creating pressure, or the worst at handling it.

Sorry if it sounds like I keep ragging on Richmond, Jono, but if you need a stat were the Tiges aren't heading for a spoon, Adelaide's forward line is actually the least functional (or else on the end of worse supply). They take more I50s per goal than the yellow & black by the princely sum of 0.1.

[vic_orthdox]

I've used that to try and figure out two things: how many disposals it takes to get the ball into the forward line, and also how many entries into forward fifties result in goals. Funnily enough, even with Brownola, Brisbane rank poorly for conversion from I50s to goals. Does this mean there is some serious punishment coming up for their opponents when they get it right?

Might have something to do with Brisbane's poor field kicking. I'm not sure how it's been this year but over the past couple, they've been one of the worst teams by foot.

[Mr Casson]

Originally Posted by vic_orthdox

Might have something to do with Brisbane's poor field kicking. I'm not sure how it's been this year but over the past couple, they've been one of the worst teams by foot.

You could probably tell based on marks inside 50 whether that's the case.

[mikeW]

Originally Posted by Matt79

Good to see you back after your self-imposed, post-Anzac Day hiatus

Pretty sure i was around... even complemented your mob if i do remember

[Matt79]

Yeah, you were on the day after. Would have given you more serious crap if you hadn't shown up at all.

[Burgey]

Anyone give the Swans a shot with the start this week? Think of a lazy 50 on them.

[Mr Casson]

Originally Posted by Burgey

Anyone give the Swans a shot with the start this week? Think of a lazy 50 on them.

Oh dear, the gushing media has got to our resident Mr. Burge, QC!

It's hard to say. I thought off the top of my head that anything around 30 would be good, but Geelong have a knack for covering lines at Skilled. If there was inclement weather around the plus would be better value but the forecast for Sunday in Geelong is no rain and mild, the same as the last two games they played there where they won by about 100 points each time (even though it was Richmond and Port). Plus they get Ablett back this week.

Also, for all of those who put a premium on ruckmen, Seaby out for (most likely) Mike Pyke is no good thing for the Swans. They'll definitely have to revert to the high-stoppage game to try and break even in the midfield, but I can see the Cats getting away from them there.

Cats by 30 for mine.

[Burgey]

Media hasn't got me mate, just like the way the Swans play in that they rarely, if ever, give up.

Appreciate the heads-up though. I realise they're up against it, but don't profess a great deal of expertise on Aussie Rules.