The MMA/UFC Thread

[Majin]

I don't have it either, watch all my events through alternative sources shall we say

still can't get over what I have just witnessed, need to watch that over and over again.

[SirBloody Idiot]

God Sherdog's forums will have exploded.

[Johnners]

Originally Posted by SirBloody Idiot

God Sherdog's forums will have exploded.

Their website is down, so close enough

[masterblaster]

Just saw the main event only. It was a pretty amazing fight. Cain completely destroyed Brock. I had a feeling that Brock would run out of steam but never would've predicted that he would be completely destroyed like has been tonight.

That's the great thing about UFC I guess in that it's the unpredictability that makes things exciting. I still think it's stupid of UFC fans to be dissing Brock. Like it or not, he is the biggest draw UFC has and he draws casual fans. I think the buy rate of this PPV will support that.

[Goughy]

Lesnar is the biggest draw in addition to the biggest body and name. The UFC kinda needs Brock as its HW division is pretty thin. Brock isnt much of a mixed martial artist - he has achieved little in the sport and had very basic striking and defense - but he is capable through his sheer size and agility of beating anyone on the planet (as well as losing.)

Its not a shock that he lost as he was, and still is, unproven but he will continue to be a threat to anyone for a while.

Ill be interested how many buys a Cain - JDS gets. Cant see it being that many.

[duffer]

Cain and Junior would depend on the undercard a fair bit. Not sure the UFC will risk having that as the only blue ribbon matchup on the card and seeing it flop.

UFC 122 looks rather putrid, might give that a miss. Rampage-Machida looks alright but the next really stacked card imo is the Frankie-Maynard one.

[masterblaster]

This was mentioned in another thread but is worth mentioning here anyway as it's a very interesting interview.

YouTube - WWE's Undertaker, Brock Lesnar Exchange Words Following UFC 121

[King Pietersen]

Brock needs to improve his training. I'd love to see Brock Lesnar just take 2 months away from Minnesota, go to Holland and train his stand-up at Golden Glory. It's not so much the technique I want him to drill, it's the sparring. Brock Lesnar does not like getting hit, and in the UFC HW division, with these talented wrestlers with heavy hands, that's not good. I don't think Brock is being pushed enough in his camp, I don't think the guys are going at him. Check Jon Madsen's performance against Gilbert Yvel, I'd bet he doesn't go anywhere near that hard on Brock in training, and that's an issue.

Holland would be the perfect place for Brock Lesnar to go, even if it's just for 2 months. Holland, and the big gyms in Holland are famed for their incredibly hard sparring. They don't go anywhere near as hard on bag/mits as they do in sparring, and exposure to that would really help Brock. Going out of his comfort zone to learn and spar hard with guys like Alistair Overeem, Semmy Schilt, Gökhan Saki, Sergei Kharitonov and Errol Zimmerman. Big, strong, powerful dudes that are going to put it on Brock, and hit him in the face. It's the only way he's going to get over that flaw in his game. 2 months getting battered by Alistair Overeem would soon sort him out. It won't happen, but I'd love to see him do it.

[duffer]

This card looks great. Rooting for Sot, Davis, Harris, BJ and Rampage tonight.

[duffer]

What a clinic by Sotiropoulos. Just a sick victory.

[Majin]

So stoked with that card, apart from Karo losing which makes me cry, pretty much everything went how I wanted to.

Sotiropoulos looked all class again and I can't believe he's not anywhere in the title mix just yet, he is a complete monster and easily the most entertaining BJJ guy to watch in the UFC imho. Very happy he won, "J-lau" gtfo what an utter ponce. Got teabagged by Sot and deserved it.

Phil Davis is on his way to becoming my favourite fighter, he is a complete hero. His little pink Bret Hart shorts, always working to finish, the Mr. Wonderful sub which was insane, generally all round good guy. Entertaining fight too. Really hope they match him up against Bones Jones at some point would love to see him smash that gimp.

Harris/Random Chute Box guy whose name I forget was random as ****. Some absolutely sick and insane action mixed with Silva/Maia levels of **** all. Could have been great, ended up just being strange. No idea why the hell Harris was putting his arms up in the air at the end of the fight, he literally did nothing.

Penn /Hughes was CRAZY! BJ looked like a total nutcase coming out to the ring, and I was expecting a tough battle out of both of them, but he totally killed Hughes, amazing. Never been a huge fan of Matt Hughes either so I was particularly happy to see him get mashed up like that. Be interesting to see where Penn goes from here.

Main event, pretty much went as you would expect although Machida was extremely negative in the first two rounds. I had Page winning 2-1 and was pretty surprised it went to a split decision. First two rounds were close but Page had aggression and octagon control in the first, as well as a few solid blows (his uppercuts were nasty) and the fact that he spent about 3 minutes of the round Couturing Machida up against the cage and stomping on his foot and attacking the legs, thought that round was his. Second was pretty similar stuff part from Page getting the takedown so again that round was Page's. Third was a clear Machida round for mine, but Machida did absolutely jack **** in the first two so I would have been pretty miffed if he got the nod. Was surprised Rampage thought he lost as well.

Sherdog forums are pretty hilarious with Machida fans screeching about a robbery, though. Especially the ones crying that Machida's leg kicks should have won him the first round and saying **** like "SINCE WHEN DO LEG KICKS COUNT FOR NOTHING?!" Massive karma laid down for Shogun/Machida 1. Not as if any of Machida's kicks were significant or landed hard either.

But yeah overall very enjoyable card for mine, makes up for a few bad ones we've had recently. Apparently at post-fight press conference Dana White said there won't be a rematch between Page and Machida as well which I approve of. For one because I thought Page won pretty clearly, but also because Machida having 4 fights against 2 guys would be ****.

[King Pietersen]

Page won that fight. He won the first 2, and Machida clearly won the 3rd. Glad they're not having a re-match. I wanna see Rampage take on the winner of Jones/Bader with Machida taking on Bonnar/Pokrajac. Machida's effectively on a 3 fight losing streak, so I think he needs to move down the food chain a bit.

[chalky]

For anyone who hasn't seen it Paul Daley's KO of Scott Smith

YouTube - Paul Daley knocks out Scott Smith (Who wants a KO for christmas?)

Daley is a dick and will get schooled by a half decent wrestler but if matched up correctly will put bums on seats. Strikeforce apparantly looking at a KJ Noons for Daley next which would be an awesome fight.

Anyone think Koscheck can upset GSP tonight? GSP on points is definate favourite but can see a KO or TKO not bad odds at 5/2 IMO.

[Goughy]

WMMA3 released

[SirBloody Idiot]

Originally Posted by Goughy

WMMA3 released

So so good. I remember thinking how big an improvement WMMA2 was on 1, but this is just so much better. The match engine is fantastic, the game is so much quicker, better looking and I love it. I'm a C-Verse guy, too, so happy to get right into it.

Not strictly MMA, but K-1 spoilers:

[spoiler]Saw bits and pieces of the final tonight. Overeem just ran through Aerts in that final after looking pretty ordinary earlier in the night. Was a brave effort for Aerts to beat Schilt - am pretty disappointed that it wasn't a Semmy-Overeem final - but he was just torn apart in the final. Completes a great year for Overeem.[/spoiler]