AFL Team 1997-Now: Key Forwards - Page 2

Ausage · 17-06-2009, 06:56 PM

Hard to untangle my thoughts about Carey the man with Carey the footballer. He and Lockett are the standouts for me, but I just can't bring myself to vote for Carey.

Going with Lockett and Hall to keep it in Sydney

Lloyd is the other standout, but just love Big Bazza.

Redbacks · 17-06-2009, 07:01 PM

Carey, wanted to pick plugger but over the time range of the comp went for Tredrea. 01-02-03-04-05 kicked over 50 goals and took 200 marks a season. All-Australian CHF in 4 consecutive years putting him just ahead of plugger for me.

pasag · 17-06-2009, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jono

No more or less controversial than Pasag choosing Fevola.

Hall from 2003-2006 was superb.

What are you implying there?

Burgey · 17-06-2009, 07:55 PM

Lockett & Carey for me.

vic_orthdox · 17-06-2009, 10:53 PM

Guess I've chosen the two dominant forwards of the 00's, in Riewoldt and Brown. Not entirely convinced that Lockett should be such a runaway victor in this; it certainly weren't his best footballing years. Carey's best years straddle the line, and I've probably been a bit harsh on Lloyd. I was also at that game, Matt, and reckon that Carey's goal from the boundary line was better than Lloyd's mid-air hack; it was the sort of goal that Eddie Betts kicks regularly (an inverted snap off the left, where most would snap he kicked a banana) which at that stage just hadn't been seen at all. It was the point of the match where everyone started realising that what we were seeing was an exhibition, not a real football match.

Brown has managed to keep an intimidation factor about himself that very few players are able to have in this era of football, where guys dropping back into the hole are protected. Riewoldt is probably the best pure athlete of the all the key position players, and I don't think that there is a key backman that could stay with him all day that has the size needed to go with him.

Jono · 18-06-2009, 02:26 AM

Vic, do you think from 1997-2007 Riewoldt has done more than Richo?

Not saying he hasn't, but just curious in your answer.

Jono · 18-06-2009, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redbacks

Carey, wanted to pick plugger but over the time range of the comp went for Tredrea. 01-02-03-04-05 kicked over 50 goals and took 200 marks a season. All-Australian CHF in 4 consecutive years putting him just ahead of plugger for me.

I thought about Tredrea (despite him being a dick, I rated him the overall best of the CHFers from 2001-2005), but over the last 3.5 years its fair to say that Riewoldt, Brown and Pavlich have overtaken him, obviously partly due to injury.

I guess it just depends on much you weigh that against him.

vic_orthdox · 18-06-2009, 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jono

Vic, do you think from 1997-2007 Riewoldt has done more than Richo?

Not saying he hasn't, but just curious in your answer.

Richo could well have done more than Nick. But if I were building a side, I'd definitely want Riewoldt in front of Richardson. That's mainly to do with the fact that, outside of Nathan Brown who isn't your traditional front and square small forward, Richmond hasn't had a successful small forward throughout his career, because they don't know where to go to get to the contest. That's mainly attributable to the fact that Richo doesn't know where he is going to go!

Riewoldt plays a predictable style of football to his teammates, that redirects traffic through him and he's in the right spots.

Jono · 18-06-2009, 05:52 AM

Yeah, interesting point. Amazing how good both players would be if they could kick straight!

Whilst we're at it, how about we get people to rate the following power forwards based on how good they have been in their careers, and then how good they are now.

J Brown
B Hall
M Pavlich
M Richardson
N Riewoldt
W Tredrea
S Lucas

I deliberately left Fevola and Lloyd out as they are more traditional full forwards, and Franklin because he hasn't played anywhere near as long as the above players.

alternative · 18-06-2009, 05:56 AM

Went with Lockett and Lloyd.

Matt79 · 18-06-2009, 08:43 AM

Ripper voted for Pebbles!!

chaminda_00 · 18-06-2009, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt79

hmmm, would love to hear Tharmi's thoughts on why Barry Hall is better than Carey or Brown.

Was a tough call going for NSW boy in Carey or the Swans in Hall. Wagga Wagga a hole, so went Hall.

Redbacks · 19-06-2009, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jono

Whilst we're at it, how about we get people to rate the following power forwards based on how good they have been in their careers, and then how good they are now.

W Tredrea
J Brown
M Pavlich
N Riewoldt
B Hall
M Richardson
S Lucas

Careers - grouped in lots of relative strength, Richo has shown to be a gun on the ball as with Pav.

W Tredrea

J Brown
M Pavlich
N Riewoldt

B Hall
M Richardson
S Lucas

Right Now

N Riewoldt
M Pavlich - such a gun in a weak team for way too long

J Brown
M Richardson - as with Pav but his kicking at times has been woeful

B Hall
W Tredrea
S Lucas

View Poll Results: Pick 2 Key Position Forwards
Alastair Lynch	0	0%
Anthony Rocca	1	4.17%
Barry Hall	2	8.33%
Brendan Fevola	2	8.33%
Daniel Bradshaw	0	0%
David Neitz	1	4.17%
Fraser Gehrig	0	0%
Jonathon Brown	4	16.67%
Justin Koschitzke	0	0%
Lance Franklin	2	8.33%
Matthew Lloyd	4	16.67%
Matthew Pavlich	0	0%
Matthew Richardson	1	4.17%
Nick Riewoldt	1	4.17%
Saverio Rocca	0	0%
Scott Lucas	0	0%
Tony Lockett	15	62.50%
Tony Modra	0	0%
Warren Tredrea	1	4.17%
Wayne Carey	14	58.33%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll

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17-06-2009, 06:56 PM	#16 (permalink)
Ausage International Vice-Captain Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: I'll show ye!! Posts: 4,828	Hard to untangle my thoughts about Carey the man with Carey the footballer. He and Lockett are the standouts for me, but I just can't bring myself to vote for Carey. Going with Lockett and Hall to keep it in Sydney Lloyd is the other standout, but just love Big Bazza.

17-06-2009, 07:01 PM	#17 (permalink)
Redbacks International Vice-Captain Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Barrow Island, WA Posts: 4,063	Carey, wanted to pick plugger but over the time range of the comp went for Tredrea. 01-02-03-04-05 kicked over 50 goals and took 200 marks a season. All-Australian CHF in 4 consecutive years putting him just ahead of plugger for me.

17-06-2009, 10:53 PM	#20 (permalink)
vic_orthdox Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 24,371	Guess I've chosen the two dominant forwards of the 00's, in Riewoldt and Brown. Not entirely convinced that Lockett should be such a runaway victor in this; it certainly weren't his best footballing years. Carey's best years straddle the line, and I've probably been a bit harsh on Lloyd. I was also at that game, Matt, and reckon that Carey's goal from the boundary line was better than Lloyd's mid-air hack; it was the sort of goal that Eddie Betts kicks regularly (an inverted snap off the left, where most would snap he kicked a banana) which at that stage just hadn't been seen at all. It was the point of the match where everyone started realising that what we were seeing was an exhibition, not a real football match. Brown has managed to keep an intimidation factor about himself that very few players are able to have in this era of football, where guys dropping back into the hole are protected. Riewoldt is probably the best pure athlete of the all the key position players, and I don't think that there is a key backman that could stay with him all day that has the size needed to go with him.

18-06-2009, 02:26 AM	#21 (permalink)
Jono Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virat Kohli Posts: 47,551	Vic, do you think from 1997-2007 Riewoldt has done more than Richo? Not saying he hasn't, but just curious in your answer.

18-06-2009, 05:52 AM	#24 (permalink)
Jono Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virat Kohli Posts: 47,551	Yeah, interesting point. Amazing how good both players would be if they could kick straight! Whilst we're at it, how about we get people to rate the following power forwards based on how good they have been in their careers, and then how good they are now. J Brown B Hall M Pavlich M Richardson N Riewoldt W Tredrea S Lucas I deliberately left Fevola and Lloyd out as they are more traditional full forwards, and Franklin because he hasn't played anywhere near as long as the above players.

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