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    Game has turned to **** for a Highlanders fan - lost Cowan and Mackintosh within five minutes of each other, we've started to play like ****, and this "non-neutral" referee situation has backfired. Badly.

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    Fight our way back into the game with two tries then give up a droppie with a minute to go . ****ing hell. Same ****, different year.

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    Ha, wow. Thought the Brumbies were buggered at the end there. Any win in NZ a good win tho.
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    Don't like the non-neutral referees either. Sure we probably benefited a bit from it tonight but at the end of the season it could really turn sour if there's critical matches where a ref can influence the result. Not accusing refs of deliberating doing anything but it's currently a lose-lose situation. The side that loses either blames the ref for being biased or being too hard trying not to be biased. So much better with neutral referees even if I dislike some of them.

    Thought we'd basically thrown the game away at the end there, twice. Once to give them the try to get the lead, then when there was about 20 seconds left we coughed up the ball again in a dangerous position.

    So glad we got up, wasn't looking promising early on.


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    Entertaining match to start the season. Was a great start for the Highlanders before losing Cowan and Mackintosh - I thought their replacements in Romans and King were decent enough though. At that stage I couldn't see the Brumbies getting back into it so to watch them amass 30 unanswered points was astonishing. I think the problem with the Highlanders was a lack of leadership besides Cowan. Bowden was fantastic for the first twenty minutes then was almost annonymous for the rest of the match, and missed an important conversion. Their only other all Black besides the two that were injured, Adam Thomson, played well but is hardly a leader and Shoemark, who ended as captain, was in his first Super 14 match.

    Also thought it was worth noting that at a quick count just nine of the Highlanders' 22 played for Otago in the NPC...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltman View Post
    Why on earth have they gone back to the four-point process for the scrums? Once again, it comes down to the referee's timing - and each of them have different speeds when they call it. An utter shambles.
    Yeh really bizarre to use the four calls for scrums after the three calls worked so well during the Air New Zealand Cup - I haven't heard many complaints about three calls for the scrum engagement during the domestic season so no idea why they'd continue with four at Super 14 level.

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    Big win for the Waratahs - written off by most and spent 78% of the game in their own half away from home against a highly rated side

    Have watched most of the games so far and it looks like some of the kiwis are short of a gallop so not getting carried away by the Brumbies or Tahs just yet

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    Hurricanes playing their usual dumb football. If they had anyone in their teams with brains over the last 13 years, they may have had a couple of titles in the cabinet. That said, Beale showed flashes of brilliance going forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by social View Post
    Big win for the Waratahs - written off by most and spent 78% of the game in their own half away from home against a highly rated side

    Have watched most of the games so far and it looks like some of the kiwis are short of a gallop so not getting carried away by the Brumbies or Tahs just yet
    Yup thats a really good victory for the Tahs - they took their chances well and the Hurricanes really will be regretting being unable to capatilise on so much good ball in the Tah's 22. Perhaps the Waratahs were lucky not to have conceeded a few more straight arm penalties and/or had a player or two sin binned, especially given Dickinson issued a warning about cynical play after a minute and a half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TT Boy View Post
    The Reds aside, the Lions Cheetahs game should just decide who will come last. Cheetahs have a real tough few weeks on the road and have no depth but last year in between huge amounts of mediocrity they played some nice stuff. South Africa have one franchise too many and the thought of another one in Eastern Province is ludicrous given how those two franchises have done in S14.
    Taped the game and whilst it was surprisingly entertaining, I'd be even more surprised if they didn't make up at least two of the last three, if not the last two, teams in the final standings. Well taken drop goals from the Lions but the fact that they scored only one of their tries against a full compliment of Cheetahs and then almost blew a 14 point lead midway through the second half leaves question marks over their ability. The Cheetahs weren't much better for the first 60 minutes, ill disciplined and I'd say they'll get hammered a couple of times away from home.

    Good victory for the Blues though, away from home and with a depleted side (Ali and Jay Williams, Kaino and Rokocoko). Doesn't get any easier facing the Bulls in Pretoria next week though. Force will be disappointed, they had the lead at halftime and the wind advantage in the second half.

    Thought the Crusaders vs Chiefs match was pretty good with neither side quite at their best. Wasn't convinced over Donald but Leonard was fantastic in his comeback match. Was surprised at the decision from Blackadder to start Slade ahead of Brett - Slade had a decent match without being outstanding so it'll be interesting to see who plays at first five for the red and blacks next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somerset View Post
    Taped the game and whilst it was surprisingly entertaining, I'd be even more surprised if they didn't make up at least two of the last three, if not the last two, teams in the final standings. Well taken drop goals from the Lions but the fact that they scored only one of their tries against a full compliment of Cheetahs and then almost blew a 14 point lead midway through the second half leaves question marks over their ability. The Cheetahs weren't much better for the first 60 minutes, ill disciplined and I'd say they'll get hammered a couple of times away from home.
    Yeah was a good game. Heinke van der Merwe was awesome and for all the stick he gets, Earl Rose had a decent outing as well. The Yank, Clever also had a decent debut and it looks like the guy can put himself about.

    Watched a bit of the Hurricanes today and it just seemed like they were too clever for their own good. Fair play to the Waratahs though, I didn't fancy them at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somerset View Post
    Yeh thats quite odd - even selecting the most expensive players in every category doesn't exceed the salary limit.
    They've obviously realised they've effed up because they've scrubbed round one, revalued and are starting next week now.

    If anyone wants to join go here:

    http://www.fantasyrugby.com/s1409/

    click on the "my conference" option after you register and the league is called "Cricket Web" & the password is "Bob". If you've entered previously details are carried forward.

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    Good win by the Sharks. They should be looking at a bonus point next week.

    Bulls Reds game was pretty good as well. Bulls still donít look comfortable playing under the ELVs but they started the game really well and for the first 15 minutes it looked like the Reds could be in for what they got a few years back, a bloody hiding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltman View Post
    Hey! That's uncalled for - we rely on Northland players as well!
    You from Napier originally mate? Went there last year - bloody nice part of the world is Hawkes Bay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    You from Napier originally mate? Went there last year - bloody nice part of the world is Hawkes Bay.
    Nah, from Dunedin - where the Highlanders are based. We are kinda like the Ellis Island of NZ Super 14 rugby - "Give us your weak, your poor, your illegal immigrants and all will be well."

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