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nightprowler10 · 11-08-2012, 04:46 AM

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First the Gasol trade and now this. Why do the basketball Gods love the Lakers so much?

Memphis ultimately got Marc out of that deal didn't they? Still, at the time it was highway robbery.

dontcloseyoureyes · 11-08-2012, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nightprowler10

That I didn't think Iggy was a big enough upgrade to justify giving up Afflalo, Harrington and two 1st rounders. But I guess if you take AA's lack of commitment and money saved into account it's a decent deal.

They're both protected first rounders though, so it's not like they're going to be good draft picks. Any picks not in the top ten in the NBA draft are generally worthless anyway. Sometimes you get lucky, but most of the time, you get rubbish.

andruid · 13-08-2012, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dontcloseyoureyes

They're both protected first rounders though, so it's not like they're going to be good draft picks. Any picks not in the top ten in the NBA draft are generally worthless anyway. Sometimes you get lucky, but most of the time, you get rubbish.

Tell that to Rajon Rondo

dontcloseyoureyes · 13-08-2012, 03:54 PM

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Tell that to Rajon Rondo

Rajon was scouted as a top 10 prospect but GM's were scared off by his inability to shoot a consistent jump shot. Not the greatest call on their parts, but you can't blame them. It's a God-awful stroke.

In any case, there's loads of examples of players who were drafted outside the lottery and became superstars (Ginobili, for one). But for every one you name, I'll give you 50 ones who never did anything but have a solid D-League career. The Magic just traded a top 5 player in the league (arguably top 3) for that crapshoot.

duffer · 13-08-2012, 07:50 PM

He's right though, they're not totally worthless to the right GM. We got Lawson and Faried well outside the lottery (although Lawson never should've fell that far). But that said even most lottery picks never amount to much outside the top 3 or 4.

It's the flaw with building through the draft, OKC did it well but they lucked out on Durant and Westbrook and Ibaka were very raw and could've gone either way.

dontcloseyoureyes · 13-08-2012, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by duffer

He's right though, they're not totally worthless to the right GM. We got Lawson and Faried well outside the lottery (although Lawson never should've fell that far). But that said even most lottery picks never amount to much outside the top 3 or 4.

It's the flaw with building through the draft, OKC did it well but they lucked out on Durant and Westbrook and Ibaka were very raw and could've gone either way.

Yeah but dude, they traded DWIGHT.****ING.HOWARD. His point is perfectly valid in any trade, except for one where you're trading the best player over 6'9'' in the league and the third best overall.

duffer · 13-08-2012, 09:04 PM

Everyone knows they got back a poo poo platter as far as return goes. But they were screwed as their only suitors had nothing to give back valuable. Just goes to show how good a job Ujiri and Kroenke did for the Melo deal. The trade was an abortion in general, I'm not even sure what difference Iggy is going to make in Denver, they just allowed Howard to come West and are still first round fodder.

Philly and LA made out like bandits here. Denver did okay but Orlando could've waited and got better from the Nets when Lopez is on the block again.

nightprowler10 · 13-09-2012, 02:43 PM

League Pass now available with early bird fees. Might go for the cheaper option this year.

Riggins · 21-09-2012, 01:02 AM

Phx's Channing Frye out with Peter Siddle Syndrome.

andruid · 27-09-2012, 12:13 PM

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Phx's Channing Frye out with Peter Siddle Syndrome.

As a Celtics fan, my heart goes out to him. Pun not intended.

duffer · 13-10-2012, 10:05 PM

Drummond is raw but could be a proper beast in a few years.

andruid · 14-10-2012, 12:42 PM

Jeff Green looking the money so far for the Cs. Still pre season but good signs though.

dontcloseyoureyes · 14-10-2012, 07:39 PM

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Drummond is raw but could be a proper beast in a few years.

Yeah of all the lottery guys I think he has the highest upside. I don't think he'll ever reach it, but wow if he ever learns how to ball it'll be on for young and old.

andruid · 27-10-2012, 01:54 PM

Sending the outcome of Frankenstorm's visit to Miami, let's get this show on the road

andruid · 28-10-2012, 12:37 PM

James Harden traded as OKC hang on the salary cap gallows designed to clip the big market teams

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13-08-2012, 09:04 PM	#2977 (permalink)
duffer International Coach Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: So appalled... Posts: 11,338	Everyone knows they got back a poo poo platter as far as return goes. But they were screwed as their only suitors had nothing to give back valuable. Just goes to show how good a job Ujiri and Kroenke did for the Melo deal. The trade was an abortion in general, I'm not even sure what difference Iggy is going to make in Denver, they just allowed Howard to come West and are still first round fodder. Philly and LA made out like bandits here. Denver did okay but Orlando could've waited and got better from the Nets when Lopez is on the block again.

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nightprowler10 Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Madhouse on Madison Posts: 13,389	League Pass now available with early bird fees. Might go for the cheaper option this year.

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duffer International Coach Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: So appalled... Posts: 11,338	Drummond is raw but could be a proper beast in a few years.

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andruid International Vice-Captain Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kenya. Posts: 4,003	Jeff Green looking the money so far for the Cs. Still pre season but good signs though.

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andruid International Vice-Captain Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kenya. Posts: 4,003	Sending the outcome of Frankenstorm's visit to Miami, let's get this show on the road

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