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Anil · 26-05-2011, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fusion

Where's that ban button....

thought of you when i typed that...but i just think a healthy 'bron and wade with a healthy dose of bosh will prove to be too much for dallas...of course if one of the big two is hurt, it will be moreunpredictable...

Fusion · 26-05-2011, 09:28 PM

Feel bad for Rose and the Bulls. That must have been a little heart-breaking.

So it's the rematch of the 2006 Finals. That Finals is the worst sports memory of my life. The way the Mavs lost (6 minutes away from being up 3-0, only to lose game 3 and the next 3 as well). Wade and the refs still haunt every Mavs fan to this day. We both have different teams this time around. Wade is not the same player he was in that series, Dirk is certainly not the same player now. The supporting cast is completely different for both teams. Miami is the favorite, but I like our chances. Bring it on.

Edit: Someone needs to check on Prowler. I'm worried about his well being right now.

Anil · 26-05-2011, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fusion

Feel bad for Rose and the Bulls. That must have been a little heart-breaking.

So it's the rematch of the 2006 Finals. That Finals is the worst sports memory of my life. The way the Mavs lost (6 minutes away from being up 3-0, only to lose game 3 and the next 3 as well). Wade and the refs still haunt every Mavs fan to this day. We both have different teams this time around. Wade is not the same player he was in that series, Dirk is certainly not the same player now. The supporting cast is completely different for both teams. Miami is the favorite, but I like our chances. Bring it on.

Edit: Someone needs to check on Prowler. I'm worried about his well being right now.

the bulls still need to become a little more battle-hardened before they can win a championship, but they have a young team and plenty of time so np10 doesn't need to be suicidally depressed or something

...but to your point regarding the refs, i have always felt that dirk while a fantastic offensive player gets some of the softest foul calls in the league...in my opinion much more so than other superstars...

Fusion · 26-05-2011, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Anil

but to your point regarding the refs, i have always felt that dirk while a fantastic offensive player gets some of the softest foul calls in the league...in my opinion much more so than other superstars...

Woa really? If you only see the final finutes of Game 4 & 5 vs OKC and see him get mauled and not get the calls (yet still make the shot), I don't think you would come away with that impression. Dirk has faced that his entire career. It use to be that he was primarily a jump shooter and didn't attack the basket often, so when he did, he wouldn't get the calls. He has certainly changed and gets in the paint all the time now, unfortunately IMO, he still doesn't get the calls (as compared to other "superstars"). And you would have a hard time convincing me that ANYONE in this league gets more "soft" calls than Wade, though to Wade's credit, he does attack the rim more than anyone else in the league so he creates more opportunities to earn those calls. We will just have to strongly disagree on this one Anil.

nightprowler10 · 26-05-2011, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Anil

the bulls still need to become a little more battle-hardened before they can win a championship, but they have a young team and plenty of time so np10 doesn't need to be suicidally depressed or something

Haha no way. While this series was very disappointing from an offensive perspective, this is exactly how far I expected them to go this year before the playoffs even started. I never thought they'd make it out of the East with just Rose on offense.

But...we've still got a 22 year old MVP, an amazing defense, a great coach, and a relatively young team. We're just one piece away from being the best in the East. Our D held Miami to around 85 points in almost every game, had our offense been there (we missed a ton of open shots in every fourth quarter) this series could've easily gone the other way.

An incredible season considering where we were last year.

dontcloseyoureyes · 26-05-2011, 11:20 PM

One of JR Smith or Jamal Crawford are ending up Chicago this off-season (lockout pending) surely. Given another wingman who can shoot from the perimeter but create his own shot in and out of the paint, the Bulls will be amazing next season. Boozer needs to stfu and make some baskets though (heh). No matter how bad JR/JC are on D, in that system they can be great, assuming they can buy into Thibs.

If Dwight somehow manages to magically stay in Orlando (or the Nets lol), the East could be quite good in the coming years.

dontcloseyoureyes · 26-05-2011, 11:20 PM

ps. Joakim Noah is the most amazing defender to watch since KG with the Timberwolves circa 04-07.

nightprowler10 · 26-05-2011, 11:34 PM

Agree with both posts. I really liked Crawford this year, I think he'd be a great fit, not sure how he'd feel playing for the Bulls again. He left on bad terms IIRC. Also wish Thibs would throw out that playpamphlet he uses in games and actually get a playbook. FMD.

I really really love Noah. You could see the lack of defensive intensity when he was out for a few games in the season. The players may have bought into Thibs system, but I really believe Noah and Deng's attitude on defense really changed this team. And to think people still cry we didn't trade him for Melo. We may or may not score more with Melo, but we always defend well with Noah. I've seen him successfully guard 3-4-5 easily, often even 2's.

dontcloseyoureyes · 26-05-2011, 11:57 PM

Yeah I'm not sure if Jamal will come back, but tbh I think JR would be a good fit for the Bulls anyway. He may not try on D (and be a bit of a headcase, which is an issue, but there's some very good character guys on the Bulls) but he's long for his position, he's young and athletic which means if they can get him buying in reasonably he'll hold his own enough, unlike Bogans, Korver etc who are either old or not athletic enough. Plus no man in the NBA gets hot like JR Smith does, to have that explosiveness in another position is something they really need.

The thing with Crawford is that he's essentially the only proven backcourt player on the market this offseason, which is going to put him in demand and the Bulls may not be willing to pay his price. JR will be affordable and has a higher upside.

Ikki · 27-05-2011, 04:01 AM

Great player, great jacket.

Anil · 29-05-2011, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fusion

Woa really? If you only see the final finutes of Game 4 & 5 vs OKC and see him get mauled and not get the calls (yet still make the shot), I don't think you would come away with that impression. Dirk has faced that his entire career. It use to be that he was primarily a jump shooter and didn't attack the basket often, so when he did, he wouldn't get the calls. He has certainly changed and gets in the paint all the time now, unfortunately IMO, he still doesn't get the calls (as compared to other "superstars"). And you would have a hard time convincing me that ANYONE in this league gets more "soft" calls than Wade, though to Wade's credit, he does attack the rim more than anyone else in the league so he creates more opportunities to earn those calls. We will just have to strongly disagree on this one Anil.

i don't know...it's just an impression but it's one that has been built up over years of watching him and other stars and how the refs treat them...

Fusion · 31-05-2011, 09:59 PM

Played James/Wade. Oh well, on to Game 2. Our goal remains to steal one of the two and we're still in good shape coming back to Dallas.

Johnners · 02-06-2011, 06:37 AM

Not sure whether to believe it or not till it happens, but I'm sure duffer (iirc) will be pretty chuffed about this

Sanz · 02-06-2011, 09:40 PM

Can Dallas make it 1-1 ? Great come back so far. Miami blowing 15 point lead.

Jono · 02-06-2011, 09:43 PM

Crazy last 5 mins.

26-05-2011, 09:28 PM	#2327 (permalink)
Fusion Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: United States Posts: 10,771	Feel bad for Rose and the Bulls. That must have been a little heart-breaking. So it's the rematch of the 2006 Finals. That Finals is the worst sports memory of my life. The way the Mavs lost (6 minutes away from being up 3-0, only to lose game 3 and the next 3 as well). Wade and the refs still haunt every Mavs fan to this day. We both have different teams this time around. Wade is not the same player he was in that series, Dirk is certainly not the same player now. The supporting cast is completely different for both teams. Miami is the favorite, but I like our chances. Bring it on. Edit: Someone needs to check on Prowler. I'm worried about his well being right now. Last edited by Fusion; 26-05-2011 at 09:31 PM.

26-05-2011, 11:20 PM	#2331 (permalink)
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26-05-2011, 11:20 PM	#2332 (permalink)
dontcloseyoureyes BARNES OUT Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: WILDCARD, BITCHES Posts: 27,703	ps. Joakim Noah is the most amazing defender to watch since KG with the Timberwolves circa 04-07.

26-05-2011, 11:34 PM	#2333 (permalink)
nightprowler10 Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Madhouse on Madison Posts: 13,389	Agree with both posts. I really liked Crawford this year, I think he'd be a great fit, not sure how he'd feel playing for the Bulls again. He left on bad terms IIRC. Also wish Thibs would throw out that playpamphlet he uses in games and actually get a playbook. FMD. I really really love Noah. You could see the lack of defensive intensity when he was out for a few games in the season. The players may have bought into Thibs system, but I really believe Noah and Deng's attitude on defense really changed this team. And to think people still cry we didn't trade him for Melo. We may or may not score more with Melo, but we always defend well with Noah. I've seen him successfully guard 3-4-5 easily, often even 2's.

26-05-2011, 11:57 PM	#2334 (permalink)
dontcloseyoureyes BARNES OUT Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: WILDCARD, BITCHES Posts: 27,703	Yeah I'm not sure if Jamal will come back, but tbh I think JR would be a good fit for the Bulls anyway. He may not try on D (and be a bit of a headcase, which is an issue, but there's some very good character guys on the Bulls) but he's long for his position, he's young and athletic which means if they can get him buying in reasonably he'll hold his own enough, unlike Bogans, Korver etc who are either old or not athletic enough. Plus no man in the NBA gets hot like JR Smith does, to have that explosiveness in another position is something they really need. The thing with Crawford is that he's essentially the only proven backcourt player on the market this offseason, which is going to put him in demand and the Bulls may not be willing to pay his price. JR will be affordable and has a higher upside.

31-05-2011, 09:59 PM	#2337 (permalink)
Fusion Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: United States Posts: 10,771	Played James/Wade. Oh well, on to Game 2. Our goal remains to steal one of the two and we're still in good shape coming back to Dallas.

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Sanz Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: USA Posts: 16,228	Can Dallas make it 1-1 ? Great come back so far. Miami blowing 15 point lead.

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Jono Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virat Kohli Posts: 47,482	Crazy last 5 mins.

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