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Do you want England to win the Rugger?

Do you want England to win the Rugger?


  • Total voters
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  • Poll closed .

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
do they even still have grammar schools? i thought they were done away with...certainly are around here anyway...but then i dont think we ever actually had the grammar school system in hampshire anyway...not in my lifetime..
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Can someone explain to me how Rugby Union is apparently a sport for the upper-class? Looks fairly coarse and unpolished to me.
It is still played in our public (fee paying) schools, being the preferred football code in most & the very sport takes its name from Rugby school (where Tom Brown's Schooldays is set). Union guarded its amateur status very closely until 1995 too (in England particularly); if any player turned out for a Rugby League team he would be instantly banned from union for life. In fact the original schism between union & league was over payments made to players for work missed. It's because of over a century of reinforcement of such elitist values that it's perceived as a game for toffs (albeit a manly one) despite being open (professional) for 12 years now.

Actually a lot of English league fans are still fairly chippy (understandably so) about the way the RFU (England's union governing body) has treated them. Just asked stedly what his opinion of them is. :whistling
 

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I think of a lot of the resentment is tied in with the meedja, being almost exclusively Oxbridge tbh, even on the Tabs. The sport does seem to get a rather uneven representation in the press.

As others have said it's always been the posher schools that have played it. The old Rugby is a thugs game played by gentleman, soccer is a gentlemans game, played by thugs"

In my comphrehensive, we never played it once. Mind you we never played cricket much either.
 

cpr

International Coach
do they even still have grammar schools? i thought they were done away with...certainly are around here anyway...but then i dont think we ever actually had the grammar school system in hampshire anyway...not in my lifetime..
Heh, went to a grammar school myself. Proper toff Cheshire set place, where we played rugby union, cricket and tennis (buggery was extra curricular for those interested). However because i lived in Trafford, where they still have the 11+ system, they payed for me to go there, as it was the best Catholic Grammar available. Out of about 120 in our year, i'd say 70-80 were in the same boat as me, so wasnt really all toffs.

The schools actually gone from private to 'grant maintained' since i went. Bugger if i know what that means, as its still the same, either Trafford or mummy and daddy pay, but it means it has to subject itself to OFSTEAD testing in return for lovely lucre (wasn't exactly short of money anyway, the land it was sat on was worth millions due to the area, property developers waiting to pounce.)
 

Matteh

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I went to a Grammar school. Warwickshire still has them, even if Gloucestershire and Oxfordshire nearby don't. Live about 2 miles from Gloucestershire so it's a fairly close run thing in that regard.

Was told that rugby union was always going to be played there rather than football.
 

Tom Halsey

International Coach
Several state-run gammars in Essex. KEGS in Chelmsford's main three sports were footie, rugger and cricket, all with roughly an equal amount of emphasis. It caters for most sports though, including showjumping, oddly enough.
 
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GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
do they even still have grammar schools? i thought they were done away with...certainly are around here anyway...but then i dont think we ever actually had the grammar school system in hampshire anyway...not in my lifetime..
Still have them in Wirral. Kid brother goes to the same one that i went to
 

Bronte

Cricket Spectator
Yep. :p

Probably not the target audience for the poll tho, given I'm something of a Rugger-Bugger anyway.

&, tbf to Brown, he's enough of a Rugby fan to have lost an eye playing it: from The Torygraph

Gordon, his second son, had gone blind in his left eye and had almost lost the sight of the other.;)



How did he manage this??? did he play against " The Eyegougers"....France???
 

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