dontcloseyoureyes
BARNES OUT
Point to where I said they didn't, otherwise, stop talking to me.
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Who are the biggest chokers in World Sport?
- Thread starter Days of Grace
- Start date
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
The reasons we are so quick to celebrate are:
a - because in many sports, we often do perform ****, so when we have success it is rewarding. (See also Ashes 2005)
b - in relation to point a, our antipodean friends are often very quick to remind us just how **** we are when we do lose. As are many others. So when we win, yes thanks, I shall gloat.
steds
Hall of Fame Member
****...Trent plays for Wigan, tbf.
See steds's avatar.
sideshowtim
Banned
Was just adding to the discussion you rude prick.
dontcloseyoureyes
BARNES OUT
Post reported.
Matteh
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Irony level 9.
Matteh
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Still sounds like sour grapes for mine.
NZ have been gun for 4 years, but yet against missed out where it really counts. Can't say that they really deserve it either.
Shaggy Alfresco
State Captain
Jesus, England have only lost one game in the entire tournament. It's not like we barely scraped through the group stages.
Johnners
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
DWTA, now that i think about it, would rather see GIMH make the odd rose-tinted glasses post than see Salamuddin start up another thread about how awesome the French apparently are.
Johnners
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Only 9?
Perm
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
No, they don't. A team like South Africa do. France, Australia and New Zealand would all be more deserving winners than England IMO.
Perm
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
They've been far from convincing in the tournament, with the exception of two games, and didn't really impress during the pool stages. Oh, and they've been crap for four years.
Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
You have seen the tournament rules right? This is getting silly. Teams that lose have no right bitching. You have done the impossible and got me to side with the soft boys. Christ France lost twice in the tournament and Aus and NZ went out in the 1/4ers. To say they deserve it over a 1 loss team that is in the final is childish and real sour grapes
Being crap for 4 years isnt relevant and no matter how many times you post it it doesnt make it so. This isnt the 6 Nations or the Tri-Nations. They are seperate tournaments for seperate trophies and sepeate glory. Those events are dealt with and finished and have zero relevance to the World Cup.
If England have been **** for 4 years then they have paid for that in doing badly in the competitions throughout that time.
This is a stand alone tournament and nothing else matters apart from what happens during it. England have defeated Aus and Franc. They fully deserve where they are.
Before all this on here I would have supported NZ against England every time. However, this type of attitude makes me a little happy they are now out.
God save me if England win the whole thing. Id hate it, but I would never say they didnt deserve it.
There is a reason why they play the games rather than going by how they look on paper or form.
Perm
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
FFS, I have given England credit and said that they deserve to be where they are right now, because they have performed better when it comes. But it would't be just if they won, because three good games in four years shouldn't allow a side to be crowned as World Champions, IMO.
sideshowtim
Banned
Don't think it matters too much mate.
Everyone knows the Kiwis are still the best side in the world by far. If England fans all of a sudden claim to be the best in the world....well, they're dumb.
wpdavid
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah sorry, I didn't check the earlier posts until after my own. And I agree with you - England's footballers haven't been chokers as such, with the possible exception of Euro1996 when they should have seen of a really mediocre german side and just didn't play for most of the game.
I do think there is a mental thing though. Not so much for individual games, but looking at the whole picture since 1982 or so. We've fallen so often against decent sides after reaching the last 8 or beyond, that you have to think a mentally tougher side (like the Germans or Italians) would've got though & won the thing from time to time. That's not choking though imho.
The Sean
Cricketer Of The Year
While I don’t think this current England side will go down among the greats of world rugby and I’m certainly not desperate to experience the next round of knighthoods and MBEs that will no doubt accompany an England win, they’ve peaked when it’s mattered and won the games they had to win, which is what World Cup winning teams do. To say that NZ/Australia are better teams is pretty much irrelevant at this stage – sure, if the Rugby World Championship was decided by points accumulated over a home and away league season then NZ would win it, and I’d back Australia to finish ahead of England.
But it’s not. And everybody knows it’s not – the All Black didn’t enter this tournament thinking it was a league-ranking based event only to find out that it became a knock-out event at the quarter final stage and that one loss would send them home, they of all people know how these tournaments work. They didn’t step up when it mattered most, and neither did the Wallabies. England have.
Are England one of the two best rugby teams in the world? I don’t think so.
Do England thoroughly deserve to be playing in next weekend’s final? Absolutely.
But it’s not. And everybody knows it’s not – the All Black didn’t enter this tournament thinking it was a league-ranking based event only to find out that it became a knock-out event at the quarter final stage and that one loss would send them home, they of all people know how these tournaments work. They didn’t step up when it mattered most, and neither did the Wallabies. England have.
Are England one of the two best rugby teams in the world? I don’t think so.
Do England thoroughly deserve to be playing in next weekend’s final? Absolutely.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
Yeah, the way some people round here are going on you might as well bin the World Cup and just give a trophy out to the world ranked #1 at the end of each year (like Test Cricket).
Thinking about it, our run in this WC reminds me of Brazil in the 2002 Football WC; written off due to doing nothing in the previous years but going on a marvellous run to the final. Brazil actually won the cup, here's hoping!
Thinking about it, our run in this WC reminds me of Brazil in the 2002 Football WC; written off due to doing nothing in the previous years but going on a marvellous run to the final. Brazil actually won the cup, here's hoping!
chaminda_00
Hall of Fame Member
Outside Australia in Cricket how many World Cups in any sport have been won by the most dominate side over the 2-4 years prior to the World Cup. Italy were solid for most of the time before the last Football World Cup, but Argentina were the stand out side. France were the dominate side prior to 2002 and got knocked out in the first round. Brazil did next to nothing the year before the World Cup that year. They stumbled over the line to qualifly.
But really it makes no difference what so ever in these tournments how well you did prior to the tournment. All that matters is how well you do in the knockouts, even the groups performances mean nothing.
But really it makes no difference what so ever in these tournments how well you did prior to the tournment. All that matters is how well you do in the knockouts, even the groups performances mean nothing.