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View Poll Results: Who are the biggest chokers in world sport?
All Blacks 19 52.78%
South Africa cricket team 13 36.11%
England cricket team 0 0%
England football team 1 2.78%
Other (Greg Norman, etc.) 3 8.33%
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Old 13-10-2007, 09:20 AM   #61 (permalink)
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As sportspeople go, Matt Orford has to be included.
Nah Jason Taylor was 10 times worse.
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Old 13-10-2007, 09:33 AM   #62 (permalink)
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do one Salamuddin, we wouldn't have won the WC in 94, but we certainly should have qualified.
Yes, World Cup semi-finalists to non-qualifiers. I think we were good enough to qualify at least.
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Old 13-10-2007, 09:54 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Nah Jason Taylor was 10 times worse.
Wow. Are you a Manly fan or something?
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Old 13-10-2007, 12:17 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Yes (re England & the 1994 WC), World Cup semi-finalists to non-qualifiers. I think we were good enough to qualify at least.
We only had ourselves to blame, what with failing to hold on to leads at Wembley against Norway & Holland. It didn't help that Taylor didn't have a clue, of course.
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Old 13-10-2007, 12:23 PM   #65 (permalink)
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We only had ourselves to blame, what with failing to hold on to leads at Wembley against Norway & Holland. It didn't help that Taylor didn't have a clue, of course.
Well, already ranted about Taylor earlier in the thread, and for the last 15 years of my life, so I won't carry on.

It may have been a couple of poor performances, byt we were lumbered with the worse manager in history, terrible officiating in the second match against the Dutch, and injury to our key-player (gazza). Hardly canditure for "worse chokers in history", imho.

Still find it utterly bizarre that I pay Taylor his wages to waffle on about England on Radio5

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Old 13-10-2007, 02:24 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Jimmy White springs to mind.
Don't really think it's White's fault his career has overlapped with arguably the two greatest snooker players ever (plus Ray Reardon who wasn't half bad either. Past his best when White was around, but defeated him in atleast one ranking tournament final, iirc.) Snooker's a hard sport to define what a choke is, too. You could go from being 5 frames up and play 1 adequate shot in each of the next 6 frames, then sit down and watch your opponent clear up each time. Doubt White ever did that, tho...

The 92 and 94 world champs finals were definitely chokes.

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Old 13-10-2007, 05:41 PM   #69 (permalink)
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Yes of course....it couldn't possibly have anything to do with the fact that Englands' players weren't good enough now could it ?
France are qualifying well aren't they...
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France, WC Runner-ups last year, struggling to qualify against what is essentially a dire Premiership team that was relegated to the Championship last season.
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Haha Salamuddin, you are an embarassment to all societies, our footy team is just fine, thank you, and just for the record, how was the Rugby for you tonight, sunshine?
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Haha Salamuddin, you are an embarassment to all societies, our footy team is just fine, thank you, and just for the record, how was the Rugby for you tonight, sunshine?
Dire. This is why I hate England winning.
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Dire. This is why I hate England winning.
And like they are the only ones? They have as much right to rub in as much as anybody. It is a two-way street.
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And like they are the only ones? They have as much right to rub in as much as anybody. It is a two-way street.
Happens more with English fans AFAIK. I don't often see Australian, South African, Sri Lankan, New Zealand or West Indian fans gloating like this. And well, TBH, Pakistan and India are different propositions entirely. What makes it even worse is that all this gloating comes along as soon as England win, understandable, but doesn't hide the fact that they have been **** for four years and are still quite a poor rugby team.
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