With Ben Roethlisberger Steelers went 15-1 in the rookie season and Superbowl in the second season. Not saying he was the best QB, but he was NFL ready and fit in the Steelers system perfectly.
Lets go I got marvin harrison on my fantasy team and he picks up the 30 yrd touch down catch by manning
What Ben did in 2004 and 2005 was pretty special and of course he was helped by the system, he helped the system as well that too equally. In 2004 Steelers had a ordinary to average, running game, ordinary WRs(except Ward) and we still went 15-1 and lost to Patriots in AFC championship game, it was just amazing. In 2005 when we won the SB, take a look at his performance in the playoffs, it was not because of the system.
Haha, nobody cares about Eli. When someone says "Manning" and nothing more, you should automatically assume Peyton. He was probably more NFL-ready than Roethlisberger but the Colts were terrible in his debut season.Originally Posted by Sanz
Did you even watch the Steelers that year? They were 2nd best in rushing (yards/game) and 5th worst in passing (yards/game). Of course, Ben was efficient and got the job done so it would be ridiculous to call him the 5th worst QB. It's equally ridiculous to say that Roethlisberger did more for the system than vice versa. He had a limited role to play and he did it very well - that's all. Roethlisberger had an awesome rush attack and a brilliant defense and he supported them well.Originally Posted by Sanz
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Yes, I did watch Steelers in 2004, but did you really watch them or as usual your opinion is based on stats from NFL.com ? To claim that Steelers had an awesome rush attack in 2004 is a joke and Yards/Game means nothing when you run 75 % of the time. Steelers were 19th in Yards/Carry and that tells how ordinary their rush attack was. They ran the football more than any other team in NFL with 618 attempts(38.6 carries/game), The Denver Broncos who are one of the best rushing teams were a distant second.Did you even watch the Steelers that year? They were 2nd best in rushing (yards/game) and 5th worst in passing (yards/game). Of course, Ben was efficient and got the job done so it would be ridiculous to call him the 5th worst QB. It's equally ridiculous to say that Roethlisberger did more for the system than vice versa. He had a limited role to play and he did it very well - that's all. Roethlisberger had an awesome rush attack and a brilliant defense and he supported them well.
Now take a look at their passing game, No. 9 in Completion %, No. 4 in Yards/attmpt, No. 2 in 1st down %, No. 7 in QB rating. Obviously that means that BEN was just ordinary and fill in the slot of QB.
In 2003 Steelers missed the playoffs by a long hop and that was mainly because their quarterback (Tommy Maddox) sucked big time. In 2004 regular Season Steelers were were 2-1 without Ben and 13-0 with Ben as their startinf quarterback, In 2005 regular season Steelers were 9-1 with Ben as their quarterback and 2-2 without him. So you can see the impact in the results. I know it because I watched pretty much all the games where Ben has played and how much steelers missed him when he was not their QB.
Take a look at last year when Ben didn't play well and look what happened to the Steelers ?
Vikes 24 Dirty Birds 3
rave down, hit the ground
Good stats for Eli in the first game too bad he went off injured
Originally Posted by benchmark00"Straight-Edge means I'm better than you!"
So Browns ship their starting QB to seattle for a future 6th round pick. What a joke of a franchise it has become. Krennel is gone after this season, he is a disaster. Browns need to hire Cowher.
Patriots are going to lose some draft picks over this video taping thing. Cant say I agree or disagree but who cares, they are still among the top 2 teams in the NFL and bellichick the best coach.
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