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    Boxing thread

    I just wondered if there are any other fight fans here on CW? I'm sure there are a couple at least, dunno if there are enough to sustain a thread but I couldn't find one and a general boxing thread couldn't hurt. So yeah, general boxing discussion I guess.

    Just watched Arturo "Thunder" Gatti get dominated by Alfonso Gomez and eventually knocked out in the 7th, absolutely loved it. Been a fan of Gomez for a long time and hope this can catapult him onto bigger things. Took the pace from the word go and never let up, shook Gatti from the first round and never looked troubled by any of Gatti's punches. Won every round for mine and deserved the win. Great fight to watch.

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    Amir Khan was made to work hard before beating Scotland's Willie Limond to win the Commonwealth lightweight title.
    Khan had looked in control early on in their fight at London's O2 Arena but Limond rocked the 20-year-old in the sixth round, knocking him to the floor.

    The Bolton fighter recovered and dug deep to force his opponent to take a count in the next round.

    Khan dominated after that and Limond was forced to retire after the eighth round with nose and jaw injuries.

    The Athens silver medallist came into the fight with nine knockouts from his 12 pro fights but this was by far his toughest test.

    He played a patient game early on and seemed to have a narrow advantage over his more experienced opponent.

    Although he picked off Limond with a series of jabs in the second round, the 28-year-old Scot kept Khan on his toes, especially in round five when a right hand connected cleanly.

    But the fight sparked into life in the sixth round when Limond seized the upper hand and landed Khan with a volley of punches which sent him sprawling.

    Somehow Khan struggled through the remainder of the round and the knock-down seemed to spark him into action.

    The seventh round was far more one-sided as Khan backed Limond against the ropes with more hurtful combinations and the champion went down himself.

    By the eighth, Limond was on trouble but the Scot refused to give in and had to be withdrawn by his corner, handing Khan the toughest victory of his career.

    "The timing just wasn't there," Khan admitted afterwards. "I was over-anxious and wanted to commit myself too much. I was running inside, made a mistake and got caught with the right hand.

    "It could have changed the fight but it didn't - it shows I've got a good chin. I just had to compose myself.

    "Good fighters go down, come back up and knock the other person down and I did that. I wanted that title more than Willie did."
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    Was a really good fight. Fair play to Limond, he was definitely outclassed in terms of boxing skills but he was so brave. His face was a mask of blood at the end.

    Nice to see Khan tested properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Was a really good fight. Fair play to Limond, he was definitely outclassed in terms of boxing skills but he was so brave. His face was a mask of blood at the end..
    I've heard Monty and Saj were ringside supporting Khan.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuhaib View Post
    I've heard Monty and Saj were ringside supporting Khan.
    Wouldn't surprise me. Especially Saj as he's Amir's first cousin!

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    What channel was that on, out of interest? I missed that. :\

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    ITV 3 or 4 i think. There's some more stuff on those channels soon as well. Gets promo-ed in the advert breaks during the Tour de France.
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    I'm a fight fan so hopefully this thread can kick on.
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    ESPN's Top 50 Boxers of all time in Ranking.Should provoke some lively discussion



    1. Sugar Ray Robinson
    2. Muhammad Ali
    3. Henry Armstrong
    4. Joe Louis
    5. Willie Pep
    6. Roberto Duran
    7. Benny Leonard
    8. Jack Johnson
    9. Jack Dempsey
    10. Sam Langford
    11. Joe Gans
    12. Sugar Ray Leonard
    13. Harry Greb
    14. Rocky Marciano
    15. Jimmy Wilde
    16. Gene Tunney
    17. Mickey Walker
    18. Archie Moore
    19. Stanley Ketchel
    20. George Foreman
    21. Tony Canzoneri
    22. Barney Ross
    23. Jimmy McLarnin
    24. Julio Cesar Chavez
    25. Marcel Cerdan
    26. Joe Frazier
    27. Ezzard Charles
    28. Jake LaMotta
    29. Sandy Saddler
    30. Terry McGovern
    31. Billy Conn
    32. Jose Napoles
    33. Ruben Olivares
    34. Emile Griffith
    35. Marvin Hagler
    36. Eder Jofre
    37. Thomas Hearns
    38. Larry Holmes
    39. Oscar De La Hoya
    40. Evander Holyfield
    41. Ted "Kid" Lewis
    42. Alexis Arguello
    43. Marco Antonio Barrera
    44. Pernell Whitaker
    45. Carlos Monzon
    46. Roy Jones Jr.
    47. Bernard Hopkins
    48. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    49. Erik Morales
    50. Mike Tyson
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    Can't beleive Mundine didn't make it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majin View Post
    What channel was that on, out of interest? I missed that. :\
    It was on ITV1 or was in the Anglian tv region at least.

    WRT to the 50 best fighters I'm somewhat surprised to see no Lennox Lewis. To be honest I'd not familiar with the work of a lot of the guys listed, but given Holyfield is ranked @ 40 & Lewis disposed of him fairly comfortably (even if the first fight was shockingly scored as a draw) you'd have thought he should be in there somewhere.

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    Going by the list, I'm surprised by how low down Rocky Marciano is on the list. 49-49-0 with 43 knockouts is hardly something to sniff at. I wonder what they used to decide their rankings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majin View Post
    Going by the list, I'm surprised by how low down Rocky Marciano is on the list. 49-49-0 with 43 knockouts is hardly something to sniff at. I wonder what they used to decide their rankings.
    The list looks very American dominated.

    Marciano is always an interesting question. Its impossible to argue with his record but many of his fights were hand-picked (though he was certainly not the only one to do that) and the calibre of figher he entered the ring against wasnt always of the highest quality.

    Ali is another very interesting fighter as it is virtually impossible for people to divorce him being one of the greatest cultural icons of the 20th century from his actaul abilities as a boxer (which were certainly considerable but often his failings and faults are overlooked due to his revered status). The best thing about Ali is that he ducked noone and took on virtually allcomers. However there are many things that are often overlooked such as his career was over very early compared to modern fighters, allegations of rigged fights (again certainly not the only one), losing his speed early in his career and getting by on a solid chin and heart rather than the 'legendary' skill, looking very ordinary against 3rd rate fighters, entering fights (eg Foreman) as a heavy underdog, gamesmanship etc, losing to Spinks and others. etc.

    Something like this is very difficult to rank to the agreement of all. From my POV Im disappointed to see Hagler so low.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBMAC View Post
    ESPN's Top 50 Boxers of all time in Ranking.Should provoke some lively discussion



    1. Sugar Ray Robinson
    2. Muhammad Ali
    3. Henry Armstrong
    4. Joe Louis
    5. Willie Pep
    6. Roberto Duran
    7. Benny Leonard
    8. Jack Johnson
    9. Jack Dempsey
    10. Sam Langford
    11. Joe Gans
    12. Sugar Ray Leonard
    13. Harry Greb
    14. Rocky Marciano
    15. Jimmy Wilde
    16. Gene Tunney
    17. Mickey Walker
    18. Archie Moore
    19. Stanley Ketchel
    20. George Foreman
    21. Tony Canzoneri
    22. Barney Ross
    23. Jimmy McLarnin
    24. Julio Cesar Chavez
    25. Marcel Cerdan
    26. Joe Frazier
    27. Ezzard Charles
    28. Jake LaMotta
    29. Sandy Saddler
    30. Terry McGovern
    31. Billy Conn
    32. Jose Napoles
    33. Ruben Olivares
    34. Emile Griffith
    35. Marvin Hagler
    36. Eder Jofre
    37. Thomas Hearns
    38. Larry Holmes
    39. Oscar De La Hoya
    40. Evander Holyfield
    41. Ted "Kid" Lewis
    42. Alexis Arguello
    43. Marco Antonio Barrera
    44. Pernell Whitaker
    45. Carlos Monzon
    46. Roy Jones Jr.
    47. Bernard Hopkins
    48. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    49. Erik Morales
    50. Mike Tyson
    Apollo Creed got royally shafted there, one feels.

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