Formula 1 Thread

[Johnners]

Much like Takuma Sato tbh

[jot1]

Originally Posted by Clapo

Much like Takuma Sato tbh

And Coulthard. Ralph has to be on his way out. I think he's driving only because of his brother. Otherwise, it's just throwing good money after bad.

[Hoggy31]

Originally Posted by Clapo

Hamilton > Schumacher already in my extremely biased opion, because i hated schumacher. I've no doubt Hamilton will end up with more C'ships, and he'll win them in a whole lot Cleaner way the Schumacher did..

Too early to call. McLaren's been a far stronger team than any this season, whereas Schumi started his career in a mid-field car and outperformed it greatly. Would like to see how Hamilton fares battling through the mid-field in a mid-range car, taking nothing away from Lewis though, definately one of the best talents for a while.

[Matteh]

Originally Posted by Hoggy31

Too early to call. McLaren's been a far stronger team than any this season, whereas Schumi started his career in a mid-field car and outperformed it greatly. Would like to see how Hamilton fares battling through the mid-field in a mid-range car, taking nothing away from Lewis though, definately one of the best talents for a while.

Haha, **** off did he.

[Hoggy31]

On Vettel: Red Bull owns Vettel's contract, so expect to see either DC or Webber moved on next year to make way for him, don't see the point in blooding him through Toro Rosso, looks an already made gun.

[Xuhaib]

Hamilton may do a Villeneuve you never know.

[16 tins of Spam]

Originally Posted by Majin

Always enjoyed watching the F1, except when it got really boring when Schumacher was dominating everything. Loving it at the moment, getting behind Lewis Hamilton is so exciting and I was chuffed to bits for him when he won for the first time. Been driving like a champ all season, hope he carries it on.

If he does, surely that equals the Schumacher era of dominance?

Originally Posted by Clapo

Hamilton > Schumacher already in my extremely biased opion, because i hated schumacher. I've no doubt Hamilton will end up with more C'ships, and he'll win them in a whole lot Cleaner way the Schumacher did..

Originally Posted by Matteh

Yeah true that.

Haha, I still find it hilarious the hatred some people have for the man. I often wonder what his legacy would be if he was good looking, charming and from an exotic country like say.... Ayrton Senna? That man was just as dirty a racer as Schumacher yet is deified.

Originally Posted by Hoggy31

Too early to call. McLaren's been a far stronger team than any this season, whereas Schumi started his career in a mid-field car and outperformed it greatly. Would like to see how Hamilton fares battling through the mid-field in a mid-range car, taking nothing away from Lewis though, definately one of the best talents for a while.

Agreed. Hamilton's a great talent, but it remains to be seen how he performs in a car that's not one of the two best chassis' in the championship. Jacques Villeneuve had an amazing and similar start to his F1 career, and look what happened to him. Still, outpacing the reigning champ - that's seriously impressive. I feel a bit sorry for Fernando actually.

[Johnners]

Originally Posted by 16 tins of Spam

Haha, I still find it hilarious the hatred some people have for the man. I often wonder what his legacy would be if he was good looking, charming and from an exotic country like say.... Ayrton Senna? That man was just as dirty a racer as Schumacher yet is deified.

I think the fact that Senna didn't punt off 2 blokes in order to win a championship helps his case.....that and of course the horrible way in which he died.

[16 tins of Spam]

Originally Posted by Clapo

I think the fact that Senna didn't punt off 2 blokes in order to win a championship helps his case.

Senna did exactly that at the 1990 Japanese Grand Prix. The only difference is that Senna said he was going to do it beforehand, which makes it worse in my opinion.

As far as Schumacher goes - the incident at Adelaide in '94 was a blowup by primarily English media. Whether Damon Hill had the room to overtake is questionable at best, he certainly didn't have his nose in front. Not to mention that he hardly deserved the title, having had the best car and several extra races in which to score points.

[Johnners]

Originally Posted by 16 tins of Spam

Senna did exactly that at the 1990 Japanese Grand Prix. The only difference is that Senna said he was going to do it beforehand, which makes it worse in my opinion.

Oops...forgot that 1

Originally Posted by 16 tins of Spam

As far as Schumacher goes - the incident at Adelaide in '94 was a blowup by primarily English media. Whether Damon Hill had the room to overtake is questionable at best, he certainly didn't have his nose in front. Not to mention that he hardly deserved the title, having had the best car and several extra races in which to score points.

Hill had room to overtake imo, and would've easily done so had Schumacher not pulled out straight in front of him, onto the racing line to start with. That said, i can see why the officials did nothing about it, i guess i see it from a Hill fans POV. Hill certainly should have won the championship with the extra races/chances for points, but that still doesn't make the Schumacher move any less dirty imo.

[Matteh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQOT7Y9YCio

Have another look. Schumacher was essentially out the race anyway and took the opportunity to turn in on Hill in a ****ish unsportsmanlike way.

[16 tins of Spam]

Originally Posted by Matteh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQOT7Y9YCio

Have another look. Schumacher was essentially out the race anyway and took the opportunity to turn in on Hill in a ****ish unsportsmanlike way.

Haha. I don't need to have another look. I saw the race live, and I've seen it on YT. The fact is that no-one could tell if Schumacher's car was damaged - both Murray Walker and James Allen were being mighty presumptuous in calling it so. Their delight at the prospect of Hill overtaking just prior to the accident was palpable, so it's not really surprising.

Damon Hill saw a gap and took the risk, which I can totally understand. Unfortunately for him the gap wasn't big enough. Schumacher had no reason to concede the corner and did what would be expected tbh. Tough luck to Damon, he wasn't good enough to win the title in 1994 anyway.

[Johnners]

Anyone watched this 3 part series on Hamilton??

Thought it was great myself. The start of part 2 is great, Rosberg is so obviously jealous and on himself.

[jot1]

Originally Posted by Clapo

Anyone watched this 3 part series on Hamilton??

Thought it was great myself. The start of part 2 is great, Rosberg is so obviously jealous and on himself.

Pity it's going to Hamilton's head already. In an after race interview he said, the monkeys must move out of my way faster.

[Matteh]

Originally Posted by 16 tins of Spam

Haha. I don't need to have another look. I saw the race live, and I've seen it on YT. The fact is that no-one could tell if Schumacher's car was damaged - both Murray Walker and James Allen were being mighty presumptuous in calling it so. Their delight at the prospect of Hill overtaking just prior to the accident was palpable, so it's not really surprising.

Damon Hill saw a gap and took the risk, which I can totally understand. Unfortunately for him the gap wasn't big enough. Schumacher had no reason to concede the corner and did what would be expected tbh. Tough luck to Damon, he wasn't good enough to win the title in 1994 anyway.

Surely it was pretty obvious it was damaged, if Hill's wishbone got broken by Schumacher hitting him, then slamming it into a wall will break it no question. Entering that corner they are level, Schumacher turns in and it turns out there's actually a car there, hits Hill and that's that. There's actually one view from Hill's car where it looks like there's easily enough room for him to go through.
Re-watched the Jerez one last night as well, that one was ridiculously blatant.