The Premiership vs La Liga & the Trials of the English & Spanish national sides.

[Matteh]

In place of whom? Isn't he the holding midfielder?

Hargreaves

 

[aussie]

Ferdinand could push Puyol in the starting XI & Joe Cole could challenge either Jaoquin or Vicente for a place on the flanks aslo

 

[roseboy64]

Ferdinand could push Puyol in the starting XI & Joe Cole could challenge either Jaoquin or Vicente for a place on the flanks aslo

Ferdinand's better than Puyol IMO. In his prime I don't know but atm Ferdinand is way in front. Cole's better than Vicente. Not sure about Joaquin though.

 

[aussie]

Vicente is a more natural left-winger than Cole though, but his performances can't match Cole's performances on the left-wing for Chelsea or England over the past 2 years.

 

[Tom Halsey]

All this talk about Ferdinand is a bit of a laugh, he's IMO the weak link in both England and United's defence. That said, Puyol isn't great either.

 

[roseboy64]

All this talk about Ferdinand is a bit of a laugh, he's IMO the weak link in both England and United's defence. That said, Puyol isn't great either.

Now that's a laugh.

 

[Tom Halsey]

Ferdinand makes far too many mistakes. Sure, he can occasioanally look good on the ball and he uses it well but he makes far too many individual mistakes. As far as I'm concerned, he relies on Vidic to direct him.

 

[marc71178]

Now that's a laugh.

What is?

Someone who supports Manure not immediately adopting your Mr Hanky approach?

 

[roseboy64]

Ferdinand makes far too many mistakes. Sure, he can occasioanally look good on the ball and he uses it well but he makes far too many individual mistakes. As far as I'm concerned, he relies on Vidic to direct him.

They rely on each other. Vidic provides the toughness while Ferdinand provides the calm figure similar to Bruce and Pallister in a sense.

 

[roseboy64]

What is?

Someone who supports Manure not immediately adopting your Mr Hanky approach?

Umm no. BTW I don't have a Mr Hanky approach whatever that is. From the context though I'll state that there a few Man Utd players who I feel are substandard and if you're referring to Manchester United's title aspirations they're well founded and if you still think theer isn't a title race and that Chelsea are assured of winning you're seriously deluded and need to stop being an ostrich. That's only if you mean that that is.

 

[Matteh]

Chelsea have it in the bag tbh.

 

[Craig]

Except when they are forced to play Didier Drogba as a centre back...

 

[Tom Halsey]

They rely on each other. Vidic provides the toughness while Ferdinand provides the calm figure similar to Bruce and Pallister in a sense.

Neither Bruce or Pallister were anything like Ferdinand. For a start, they were better, but they were old-fashioned, physical centre-halves (somewhat like Vidic), unlike Ferdinand who may look reasonable on the ball but is extremely unreliable.

 

[Matteh]

Except when they are forced to play Didier Drogba as a centre back...

Didier 'Dion Dublin' Drogba.

 

[roseboy64]

Neither Bruce or Pallister were anything like Ferdinand. For a start, they were better, but they were old-fashioned, physical centre-halves (somewhat like Vidic), unlike Ferdinand who may look reasonable on the ball but is extremely unreliable.

Well that's your opinion. (re: Ferdinand) When Ferdinand was banned the wheels fell off what was a good defence. All the other defenders were fit, (not sure about Brown) but it just highlighted his role to the team. He may not look like he does much but play five games consecutive without him against the likes of Chelsea and Arsenal and you'll see. He may be a bit overrated I'll give you that but he's a very good centeback and one of the best in the world.

 

[aussie]

All this talk about Ferdinand is a bit of a laugh, he's IMO the weak link in both England and United's defence. That said, Puyol isn't great either.

pre-world cup i'd agree, but definately not since then, you can see Ferdinand has lifted his game to a new level since then for both club & country.

 

[Tom Halsey]

Well that's your opinion. (re: Ferdinand) When Ferdinand was banned the wheels fell off what was a good defence.

Coincidence - we were hardly defending well when he returned, were we?

With all this being said, Ferdinand > Silvestre.

 

[roseboy64]

Coincidence - we were hardly defending well when he returned, were we?

With all this being said, Ferdinand > Silvestre.

Wwell even O'Shea>Silvestre and he's now a midfielder.

 

[marc71178]

pre-world cup i'd agree, but definately not since then, you can see Ferdinand has lifted his game to a new level since then for both club & country.

Yet he's still made a number of errors for England through lack of concentration post-World Cup...

 

[marc71178]

Wwell even O'Shea>Silvestre and he's now a midfielder.

Amazing that you can post something like that, yet insist that Manure's depth is equal to or better than Chelskis...