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    Not the best start to season by Sydney FC. I agree with most of points from this article. But something that continues to be overlooked is the fact that you spend all this money on Del Piero it leaves no money for other positions. Basically they are lacking three first team standard players across the pack. Is one superstar worth having no depth? Don't think A-League sides are ready for big name players until they have enough money to still field a side with 10 other first team players. You can't carry 3-4 state league players each game.

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    Loving all the talk in the media about the Socceroos and some interesting comments.

    It seems only six months ago the Football media in Australia were praising the impact the Middle East move was having on Bresciano and that move of key reason for his good performances for the Socceroos. Now all of sudden it is trigger for Australia's down fall recently.

    Also it was only six months ago the same media where having a go at the A-league for bring the end the International careers of Emerton and Kewell. Now all the Socceroos that aren't good enough for European 1st XIs should come back to A-League, because Del Peiro, Heskey and co have magically made it a better league.

    Watch this space for Middle East sides to still out play A-League sides in ACL.

    What is the real difference between this generation and the previous generation. Lets look at two players Matt Spiranovic and Tommy Oar. Both left Australia early like most the previous generation to go to big European leagues Germany and Holland respectively.

    Spiranovic spent 4 seasons in Germany and struggle to make the starting XI, partly to do with injuries. Got told have the Socceroos management if he wants to play for Australia and replace Moore, he need first team game time. He then moves Japan and gets game time for the first two seasons. Then the 3rd season he is no longer in favour. Again gets told he needs game time to replace Neill. So he moves to Qatar and now is being told he needs game time and a better league. Maybe he not good enough to be a starting player in a better league, because he left Europe too early in the search of game time and Socceroos spot. He has played 15 games now for Australia.

    Tommy Oar spent three seasons Holland now and only getting a regular spot in the first team. He could have taken the easier option and gone to an easier league for starting spot and played more then 4 games for Australia.

    The real issue with player development over the last six years is the fact that we are in Asia not Oceania, not the player choice per say. When we were in Oceania players could put their careers on hold for 2-3 years to develop, as long as they were starting by the time the last year of qualifiers started. These days if players want Socceroos caps they need to drop their league standard and get first team action.

    Hopefully Craig Moore in his new position encourages players to go the Oar, Herd, Troisi and Holman option of developing first and playing for Socceroos second. The long term benefit is better the short term benefit of extra caps.

    Also the Japan, Korea examples of completely different situation. They can keep their young players longer at home because they can pay them similar wages to European secondary leagues, we can't. They also have more money to spend on training facilities. Australian players won't get that in Australia, they need to go overseas.
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    That's a massive come from behind win. If we lost or even drew, reckon we'd be only a small chance of progressing. Now with 3 home games out of 4, we are in the box seat in joining Japan.


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    The win is probably the worst thing for Socceroos. Watch this space for no changes, no new players blooded and get knocked out of next WC in straight sets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaminda_00 View Post
    The win is probably the worst thing for Socceroos. Watch this space for no changes, no new players blooded and get knocked out of next WC in straight sets.
    Nah it would have been the fault of that evil coach.

    Saw Archie Thompson referred to as "Australian Socceroos star" yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausage View Post
    Nah it would have been the fault of that evil coach.

    Saw Archie Thompson referred to as "Australian Socceroos star" yesterday.
    Compared to some of our other strikers he is. Got a far better goal scoring record then Holman or Kruse, even taking out the Oceania matches at the start of his career. Granted the other two are more attacking mids then strikers.

    The only more reliable goal scorers for Australia are Josh Kennedy and Tim Cahill.

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    McDonald is indeed very reliable.

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