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    Rugby

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    I do not know much about Rugby as a sport simply because I haven't followed it much. It is never too late to start though. I am a huge sports fan. So I can do with some basic Rugby gyan plus what types of rugby exist, the leagues, nations rugby etc.

    What is big in the sport, what to follow and stuff.

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    Which code?

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    Both. (also, a bit more on codes would also be helpful. I am quite new to the game).
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    It's a commonly accepted fact that Union is one to take an interest in above any others.....
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    England are the current World Champions in the senior code (Union), but are currently undergoing just the tiniest dip in form (that's lasted about 3 years & counting...) so you might want to consider supporting us.

    Actually, it might help you make up your mind if I draw a few tenuous analogies to Football regarding the national teams:

    New Zealand are like Brazil between 1970-1994; the best & most talented Rugby-playing nation on earth with the proudest history who're everyone's second favourite team but who always choke () in the big one.

    South Africa are like Germany; they may not currently have the most talented collection of players they've ever had at their disposal, but they're physical, efficient & hard to beat. Dodgy political past too...

    Australia are like Italy; successful on the world stage, solid defence, tend to be a bit lightweight up front.

    England are like England; gave the world the game, large player base, everyone non-English hates them. One huge triumph inspired by a maverick loon of a coach who was knighted for his efforts (Ramsey/Woodward) & a totemistic leader (Moore/Johnson) preceeded & followed by several years of mediocrity.

    France are like Spain; talented players, successful club sides, play the game with a definite Latin flair yet somehow the parts are always greater than the whole. Someone always tips them to do well at the World Cup & they never do.

    Samoa are like Cameroon; you’d love to see them do well, they’re capable of springing the odd shock, but you really know they’re not quite good enough to win anything on the world stage. Their supposed tactical naivety masks the occasional outbreak of random violence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby
    Samoa are like Cameroon; you’d love to see them do well, they’re capable of springing the odd shock, but you really know they’re not quite good enough to win anything on the world stage. Their supposed tactical naivety masks the occasional outbreak of random violence.
    They aren't allowed to be good enough...Bloody IRB

    Good comparisons though Brumby. Pretty much spot on I would say. Pratyush, you have chosen the right time of the season to take an interest in the greatest sport (s) on earth.

    What rugby coverge do you get where you live? Games to look out for coming up are the -

    Heineken cup final (which is rugby's equivilant of the Champions league)

    Super 14 semi finals (this is a competition between 5 NZ franchises, 5 South African franchises and 4 Australian franchises). The competition is in its final round-robin week and the semi finals are played next weekend.

    And the Tri Nations which is played between NZ Aus and South Africa and starts in July I think, with each team playing the others 3 times. This is a real show case of international rugby (at least in the Southern Hemisphere)

    What else would you like to know?.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby
    France are like Spain; talented players, successful club sides, play the game with a definite Latin flair yet somehow the parts are always greater than the whole. Someone always tips them to do well at the World Cup & they never do.
    Two finals and two semis isn't exactly terrible, but yes, perhaps they should have won one by now? I'm not sure what year though - 1999 perhaps, but Australia was a fairly clinical team.

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    Union is the posh public school Tory game, even the Irish and Scots have posh Royalist ****s in the side, Wales probably don't though, and the rest of the world is different obviously. It's a good game ruined by rules and too much kicking. The fast and furious game of League is the kiddie, no messing about with rucks and mauls and lineouts and hardly any scrums, just tough lads going full on at each other doing their best to score tries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro Delgado
    Union is the posh public school Tory game, even the Irish and Scots have posh Royalist ****s in the side, Wales probably don't though, and the rest of the world is different obviously. It's a good game ruined by rules and too much kicking. The fast and furious game of League is the kiddie, no messing about with rucks and mauls and lineouts and hardly any scrums, just tough lads going full on at each other doing their best to score tries.
    Surely it's more tough to have to do the scrums, rucks, mauls

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matteh
    Surely it's more tough to have to do the scrums, rucks, mauls
    Uninformed, stereotypical nonsense..





































    ..from me as usual
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    When people say Rugby is safer than Football......(i've heard it a few times)

    They are completely and utterly wrong.

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    I agree. Football is well safer innit.

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    Provided you're not an England player with a metatarsal bone that is......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matteh
    When people say Rugby is safer than Football......(i've heard it a few times)

    They are completely and utterly wrong.
    Here's a perfect, and extremely recent, example that rugby isn't safer.

    The son of a former All Black may never recover from a suspected stroke suffered after an under-21 rugby game.


    Grahame Thorne and wife Briony face "terrible uncertainty" waiting for their son, David, to regain consciousness after his collapse on Saturday night.

    The Nelson family, at the 20-year-old's bedside in Christchurch Hospital's neurology ward, has been told by doctors that he will "never run again".

    "We've got to keep positive. I keep crying. I've been bawling my eyes out," said Thorne, who played 10 tests at centre and wing for the All Blacks between 1967 and 1970.

    The Tasman Rugby Union is investigating a tackle against David Thorne during the second half of a match between Waimea and Huia in Motueka on Saturday.

    He continued playing for Waimea after the tackle, but said he felt "weird" after the match and has not spoken since collapsing at Nelson Hospital's emergency department about 8.30pm on Saturday.

    Doctors told the family they believe a blow to an artery in the neck resulted in it being squeezed "like a tube of toothpaste" before rupturing, leading to the collapse.

    David Thorne was moved to Christchurch Hospital on Sunday. On Tuesday night, when his blood pressure rocketed, causing his brain to swell, he was given a 70:30 chance of survival.

    He has since improved, but neurologists have been unable to tell what damage his brain and nervous system have suffered.

    "He's conscious at times. He just wants to sleep. They have to wake him every two hours to stop him slipping into a coma," said Grahame Thorne.

    He waited with his son for up to two hours before being seen by a specialist at Nelson's emergency department from 5.45pm on Saturday.

    The Nelson-Marlborough District Health Board confirmed David Thorne was categorised as a non-emergency on arrival.

    "We said he'd got pins and needles and he couldn't feel his arm, and we just sat there for two hours," said Grahame Thorne.

    He was in the Nelson waiting-room when his son, who played for the Marlborough under-15s and was headhunted by English team Leicester in 2004, suffered a seizure while having an X-ray.

    "He was lying down and he was gone," Thorne said.

    "He couldn't move. He was trying to get up, but he couldn't, they said."

    He said he immediately knew his son had suffered a stroke when he saw his face. "When I looked at him, I thought, `That's a stroke'."

    Speech therapists and physiotherapists were on standby, but so far his son, the second-youngest of five, had not responded.

    Tasman Rugby Union chief executive Lee Germon said referees and players were being interviewed as part of an investigation into the incident which resulted in a penalty being awarded.

    The player who made the tackle was not sin-binned or sent off at the time, Germon said
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3663940a10,00.html

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    Nothing that serious has ever happened to anyone that i know that plays it.
    Personally after playing rugby i always had a lot more aches and random bruises than after playing football.

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