Six Nations - Page 55

ohtani's jacket · 12-03-2007, 01:11 AM

Wilkinson's all round play is underrated, but he DID NOT set the World Cup alight in 2003.

GIMH · 12-03-2007, 05:10 AM

Well I don't watch much Rugby, but I enjoyed it yesterday. Who is everyone's money on for the championship now?

simmy · 12-03-2007, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ohtani's jacket

Wilkinson's all round play is underrated, but he DID NOT set the World Cup alight in 2003.

??

We must have watched a different World Cup then.

simmy · 12-03-2007, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero

Well I don't watch much Rugby, but I enjoyed it yesterday. Who is everyone's money on for the championship now?

France will surely still win with their big point difference.

Scaly piscine · 12-03-2007, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by simmy

France will surely still win with their big point difference.

They'll probably win but their big points difference is only slightly bigger than Ireland's. France have the advantage of playing after Ireland (so they'll know how many they need to win by, unless afterwards England hammer Wales by a massive margin) and also arguably have an easier game to win by a decent margin - home to Scotland over Ireland's game in Italy.

PhoenixFire · 12-03-2007, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Voltman

Well, durrrr, he's an openside flanker.

I can vouch for that tbh. I am one, and it doesn't fuss me to kick or punch the other blindside if he is getting too big for his boots, either that or he gets crunched.

marc71178 · 12-03-2007, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Scaly piscine

They'll probably win but their big points difference is only slightly bigger than Ireland's. France have the advantage of playing after Ireland (so they'll know how many they need to win by, unless afterwards England hammer Wales by a massive margin) and also arguably have an easier game to win by a decent margin - home to Scotland over Ireland's game in Italy.

Definitely easier.

Italy are now ranked 8th, ahead of Wales and Scotland.

steds · 12-03-2007, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by simmy

??

We must have watched a different World Cup then.

Kicking lots of points != setting it alight.

ohtani's jacket · 12-03-2007, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by simmy

??

We must have watched a different World Cup then.

I guess so. Campese set the World Cup alight in 1991. Lomu in 1995. England scraped their way to victory thanks to Martin Johnson and their forward pack. Hell, Martin Johnson was the reason they won the Final.

Anyway, IMO, Wilkinson is a better first five than Carter from set play, while Carter is brilliant in broken play.

Matteh · 13-03-2007, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ohtani's jacket

I guess so. Campese set the World Cup alight in 1991. Lomu in 1995. England scraped their way to victory thanks to Martin Johnson and their forward pack. Hell, Martin Johnson was the reason they won the Final.

Anyway, IMO, Wilkinson is a better first five than Carter from set play, while Carter is brilliant in broken play.

Matt Dawson was the reason England won the final tbh.

simmy · 13-03-2007, 08:25 AM

Matteh you are right. Dawson was so unnoticed in that final despite his exceptional performance.

But to say that Wilkinson only set the WC alight because he kicked well is ridiculous. I suggest you rewatch the final.

During the build-up to the final, I was reading Aussie newspapers over the internet (cos they are ridiculously provokative and make me laugh) and one actually have had a picture of JW and a picture of the Australian rugby logo, suggesting that England were a one man team.

Whilst the forwards were phenomenal I think it is fair to say that during that WC, Wilkinson was the best player in the world. Hell! Every commentator agreed with me!

Come on Kiwis, let's hear it...

(Oh and by the way... if Pietersen scores a 100 in our opener against NZ in a few days then he is the best bat in the world too :P)

Anna · 13-03-2007, 10:34 AM

David Strettle is feckin awesome.

Blaze · 13-03-2007, 07:24 PM

hehehe, oh simmy

I can't get my head around the 'Wilkinson set the world cup alight' comment

That would suggest that he did something entertaining...

how much union do you watch?

Smudge · 13-03-2007, 07:26 PM

Don't be so rude, Blaze - he's been watching since November 2003!

GIMH · 14-03-2007, 07:20 AM

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Matt Dawson was the reason England won the final tbh.

Matt Dawson from Birkenhead

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ohtani's jacket State Vice-Captain Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,244	Wilkinson's all round play is underrated, but he DID NOT set the World Cup alight in 2003.

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simmy International Regular Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Kent, England Posts: 3,039	Matteh you are right. Dawson was so unnoticed in that final despite his exceptional performance. But to say that Wilkinson only set the WC alight because he kicked well is ridiculous. I suggest you rewatch the final. During the build-up to the final, I was reading Aussie newspapers over the internet (cos they are ridiculously provokative and make me laugh) and one actually have had a picture of JW and a picture of the Australian rugby logo, suggesting that England were a one man team. Whilst the forwards were phenomenal I think it is fair to say that during that WC, Wilkinson was the best player in the world. Hell! Every commentator agreed with me! Come on Kiwis, let's hear it... (Oh and by the way... if Pietersen scores a 100 in our opener against NZ in a few days then he is the best bat in the world too :P)

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