Six Nations

[BoyBrumby]

Am I right in thinking Ireland host both France and England this time?

If so then unless they're favourites their odds are very good.

You are right, yes.

I've seen them @ 4s, but for me the value bet are The Taffs @ 12s or 13s. They host The Micks on the last weekend too. Ireland haven't lost in Wales in 22 years (a very spooky stat), so I reckon you could say Wales are probably due.

[Scaly piscine]

If there was one team comfortably ahead of the rest, then Wales would maybe worth looking at. But I just can't see them getting lucky against 2 of England, France and Ireland or possibly lucky against all 3 if they still go on goal difference instead of results between the two sides.

[marc71178]

Per Eurobet:

France 7/5
England 7/4
Ireland 3/1
Wales 10/1
Scotland 250/1
Italy 1000/1

Not a lot of value there, but 3-1 on Ireland does tempt me.

[BoyBrumby]

If there was one team comfortably ahead of the rest, then Wales would maybe worth looking at. But I just can't see them getting lucky against 2 of England, France and Ireland or possibly lucky against all 3 if they still go on goal difference instead of results between the two sides.

I think you mean points difference , but yes that would be the ultimate arbiter if two or more teams finished level. IIRC after that it would be tries scored, then try difference & finally the result(s) between the countries.

I reckon the bonus point system (four points for win, two points for draw, one point for scoring four tries in a game, one point for a defeat by 7 points or less) that's used in the Tri-Nations & Zurich Premiership is altogether fairer.

[BoyBrumby]

Per Eurobet:

France 7/5
England 7/4
Ireland 3/1
Wales 10/1
Scotland 250/1
Italy 1000/1

Not a lot of value there, but 3-1 on Ireland does tempt me.

If you shop around you can get better value on Wales, but 3s now looks best price for The Micks:

http://www.oddschecker.com/betting/m...86x/sid/367467

My bet of the weekend is Shane Horgan for first try scorer at 10/1 with Bluesquare.

[marc71178]

Using that I'd say 2-1 England isn't that bad.

[Smudge]

I think you mean points difference , but yes that would be the ultimate arbiter if two or more teams finished level. IIRC after that it would be tries scored, then try difference & finally the result(s) between the countries.

I reckon the bonus point system (four points for win, two points for draw, one point for scoring four tries in a game, one point for a defeat by 7 points or less) that's used in the Tri-Nations & Zurich Premiership is altogether fairer.

I hate the bonus point for losing my seven points or less. If you lose, you lose - there's been a few too many instances in recent years in NPC and Super 1 where a side gets into the semis on bonus points, despite winning fewer games than the team who misses out.

[BoyBrumby]

I hate the bonus point for losing my seven points or less. If you lose, you lose - there's been a few too many instances in recent years in NPC and Super 1 where a side gets into the semis on bonus points, despite winning fewer games than the team who misses out.

I guess over a full season you might get instances like that (can't think of any over here tho TBF), but over 4 or 5 games a la Tri-Nations or 6 Nations I still would prefer it.

Supposing Ireland, England & France all beat each other once; the champions will probably come down to who can be ar$ed to wallop Italy & The Sweaties the most.

[Waughney]

England.

[Piper]

I think Ireland will win this one... but i would really love England to win tho

[marc71178]

For those not in England, not sure if it'll work for you, but bbc.co.uk is webcasting their coverage of the Tournament if it's not being shown on your TV.

[BoyBrumby]

Leicester's loose-forward Lewis Moody has succumbed to the hamstring pull that has been bothering him all week, so Chris Jones of Sale now replaces him in our starting line-up. Bah!

It's v unfortunate injury, Moody was our last fit (& available) world class back-row forward. It's also a slightly odd call to bring Jones straight into the XV when he wasn't even named on our original bench; I don't know what sort of message that sends to James Forrester, who was! Surely if Robinson thinks he's good enough to sit on the bench he should be good enough to play?!

No disrespect to Jones, who has potential (&, FWIW, I rate more highly than Forrester). He's 6' 6", so gives a handy line-out option & is quick for a big fella. I prefer my loose-forwards too be a bit bulkier tho & with a bit more of the mongrel about them too. Hugh Vyvyan of Sarries would've been my call.

[benchmark00]

I dont know if im getting the same broadcast as you guys in Europe but has anyone noticed the spelling errors in the broadcast? lol... Scotland was shotened to: ECO.... and at halftime it had PENALITE...opposed to penalties..

Anywho... Scotland 6-0 at halftime over France.... who wouldve thought!

[BoyBrumby]

I dont know if im getting the same broadcast as you guys in Europe but has anyone noticed the spelling errors in the broadcast? lol... Scotland was shotened to: ECO.... and at halftime it had PENALITE...opposed to penalties..

Anywho... Scotland 6-0 at halftime over France.... who wouldve thought!

Ecosse is French for Scotland & (I'm guessing) penaltie maybe French for penalty!

Good stuff from The Sweaties; with an eye on The Lions I'd say Cusiter @ scrum-half, White @ flanker & Tom Smith @ prop have all held their hands up. Michalak will be on in 2nd half, mark my works. Delaigne having a mare!

[benchmark00]

Ecosse is French for Scotland & (I'm guessing) penaltie maybe French for penalty!

Good stuff from The Sweaties; with an eye on The Lions I'd say Cusiter @ scrum-half, White @ flanker & Tom Smith @ prop have all held their hands up. Michalak will be on in 2nd half, mark my works. Delaigne having a mare!

sarcasm..... hard to detect over the net i must admit,lol