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    O'Connor can **** off and stay there. Skillful players yes but bloke is a **** on a level that not even Piers Morgan could hope to surpass.
    He has wonderful skills, for an outside back - he can catch, run, kick and tackle. a 5/8 he isn't in my opinion and he showed that during the Lions series - the best thing he did all series was take on the line for his try in Game 3, which highlighted how good of a runner (read winger) he is. He can not manage a back line and is unsure how to use runners off him - Foley,Cooper, Toomua, Lealiafano and even Pat McCabe would be better options at 10 than O'Connor (maybe not McCabe ).
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    The Lions series was a joke in terms of both coaching and the forward pack getting destroyed. 2005 Dan Carter would've looked abysmal in that situation.

    Look I'm generally not a fan of just chucking talented players into crucial positions to fix things, but if he's unsure of how to use runners off him then that's a coaching issue. It's probably too late now with the world cup coming, but it's a massive waste of talent, IMO.

    And yeah, massive ****. But so is Quade Cooper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    if he's unsure of how to use runners off him then that's a coaching issue.
    nah its the coaches job to devise plays that give the 5/8 multiple options and its then up to the 5/8 to choose the best one, it's very much an instinctive thing and when we talk about a ball player having good vision it means his ability to identify a player in a hole. o'connor doesn't have this vision.

    if o'connor comes into the team its as a winger, and i wouldnt argue against it because it allows ashley cooper to play 13. at the moment the next best fit wing option is rob horne who while an outstanding ball runner and defender can not kick, the same applies to folau and cummins which is why we are playing ashley cooper on the wing and kuridrani at outside centre.
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    Your wingers don't need to be particularly good kickers in international rugby. It's nice to have but not a necessity. I'd be playing Ashley-Cooper at 13 no matter what.
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    but when your fullback can't kick then you need a winger who can kick.
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    When your fullback can't kick you get a different fullback.

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    When that particular fullback is Israel Folau you get a winger who can kick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ripper868 View Post
    When that particular fullback is Israel Folau you get a winger who can kick.
    yeah fair enough.

    I'd rather just play Folau on the wing in that case then. Can Digby kick and/or play fullback?

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    no and he's playing in europe now anyway so like o'connor he's not eligible

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    oh jesus you guys really are screwed.

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    Me and the Australian coach must think alike. Foley was the correct choice at 10 and was a revelation there afaic.

    Kurindraini sp? Continues to make so much space for the outside backs because he is a threat himself. Great pass on the Hooper try.

    Hooper needs to up his game still at the breakdown to overtake Pocock and Ritchie. Still after this performance he is now on par with them.

    That backline is the correct back line and i could not have picked a better back line myself.

    Only caught snippets of the game tbf or would give the forwards a review.
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    Hooper >>>> Pocock. Not far away from Richie, either, who's getting a bit on (good game last night though).

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    Thought White gave excellent service at half

    Obviously easier when pack is doing well but it seemed like a step up from Genia

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    Genia outplayed Aaron Smith last week, who was himself having a superb game. As far as I'm concerned, Genia is the best halfback in the world and has been for pretty much his whole career. Madness not to pick him whenever they can.

    White is a very good back-up though.

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    Terrible luck for Moore to get that injury in his first game as skipper. Seems a straight up bloke.

    Also, that play late in the game vs England where the All Blacks had a kickabke penalty with the game tied up but decided to run it. Ballsy and brilliant. Wish there was more of it by everyone.



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