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    Quote Originally Posted by dermo View Post
    Can't believe non of you ****s have mentioned the South Africa v All Blacks game at Ellis park a week or so ago, holy **** that was amazing easily the highest quality game of union i've ever seen or league for that matter

    was pretty pleased with the wallabies efforts on saturday though, gave it a good go and there was definitely plenty of positives particularly in the backline

    Quade Cooper played his best game for the wallabies imo, some of the balls he was giving at set piece we're beautiful, he's always had that ability and imo the hard running of guys like Kuridrani really helped him. Probably the best part of his game was his composure in other areas, he's always been capable of the magic ball but he made all the right decisions, and executed them. There's this consensus that when Genia plays well the Wallabies play well, but really Quade playing well is far more important, he's the one creating opportunities for his outside men and when he does it takes the pressure off Genia to be the focal point in attack and is so much harder to defend

    Despite this there's still a massive difference between us and the All Blacks, especially in the forwards. Read and Messam i just can't talk up enough, they epitomise NZ rugby. They've got the defence and hard ball running of a top line forward, and the skills of any back. IMO the entire NZ pack just works harder than the AUS pack and that was the difference on saturday, the amount of times they score tries with massive overlaps is astonishing and its the work rate of the forwards that allows this. They can commit less forwards to the rucks and still retain the ball easily because rarely does one of their forwards get dominated in a tackle contest, theres a huge gap between the NZ and our forwards in this area, tbh i don't rate Horwill or Mowen at all. Good leaders and good line out jumpers but thats about all imo. Neither are damaging ball runners and neither are punishing defenders, Hooper is twice as good a ball runner as both of them and hes half the size. We really missed Higginbotham this season imo.

    and I also reckon Folou's future lies at 13, especially when Beale returns. He's the best ball runner in Aus and arguably the world but watch NZ's first try from the weekend and you can see why Dagg is still the best 15 in the world, Folou needs to improve his ball playing skills a great deal if he wants to take his game to the next level. I will say however his aerial skills are freakish and seeing as every other outside back in Aus seems inept under the high ball, its a real reason to keep him at 15. A fully fit Beale at 15 and Folou at 13 could be the way forward imo.
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    more with my Folou at 13 thing, Cheika is going to have to fit Beale, Foley and Folou in the starting side at the Waratahs, and Beale can only play 10 or 15 and and Foley has to stay at 10 and Folou has to much attacking talent to play on the wing and only get 5 or 6 touches in a game. Besides Betham and Ashley-Cooper have to play somewhere

    my starting waratahs backline would be:

    9. Phipps
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    Quote Originally Posted by dermo View Post
    Can't believe non of you ****s have mentioned the South Africa v All Blacks game at Ellis park a week or so ago, holy **** that was amazing easily the highest quality game of union i've ever seen or league for that matter
    Yeah, it really was amazing. For that reason, I was wondering whether the ABs would be able to be 100% up for the game on Saturday. It was good to see that they pretty much were.

    Sam Cane is a terrific understudy to McCaw. And it was nice to see Piutau seemingly shake off the nerves that had plagued his career in the black jersey to date - easily his best Test performance. Nice to see Ben Smith show his versatility with a solid showing at 13.

    For Australia, yeah, Cooper was fantastic. Best game I've seen him play for the Wallabies. He kicked superbly, unfazed by the booing - which I noticed turned to grudging applause as the game progressed. Folau is wonderful under the high ball, but I thought he went missing on defence at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Ed_ View Post
    For Australia, yeah, Cooper was fantastic. Best game I've seen him play for the Wallabies. He kicked superbly, unfazed by the booing - which I noticed turned to grudging applause as the game progressed. Folau is wonderful under the high ball, but I thought he went missing on defence at times.
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    Is there anyone who follows English rugby union, that could answer me this question: how in God's name is Joel Tomkins in the England side?

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    If you've ever seen Brad Barritt play you'll know we set a pretty low bar for centres.

    Tomkins has been pretty decent for Sarries tho, tbf.
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    Looking forward to the match tonight, hopefully it will turn out to be a good game. Anyone here going along to the game?

    Hadn't quite realised this either "Only 13 of the 36-man party currently touring Europe were part of the 2011 World Cup-winning squad,".

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    Was surprised to notice Nonu's still playing. Seems like he's been around forever

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    Was a decent little game. Second half was a bit dull.

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    Wallabies giving the Irish a kicking here. No tries conceded while scoring 4 of their own, could have been more if Cooper kicked everything straight. McKenzie emptied the bench at around 65 mins. Good to see. Oh and the Australian scrum destroyed the Irish scrum. Baffling.
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    Ireland's defence was sub-comic, tbh. Horrible, horrible performance.

    & they have NZ next week too. Could get very ugly.

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    agree the irish defence was poor but have to give credit to quade cooper, hes playing ****ing well atm



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