Official Rugby Thread - Page 19

marc71178 · 13-11-2005, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Voltman

Those seems to be the murmurings coming out of the camp, yes.

I would say good, because I'd like to see them play as a unit, but unfortunately I fear the worst if that is the case!

Smudge · 13-11-2005, 04:21 PM

If it's our top team, don't be surprised to see a 30-point gap after 80 minutes.

Tim · 13-11-2005, 08:08 PM

oooo don't let that comment come back to bite you!

On current form, you'd expect the AB's to at least win..but 30 points is a big punt.

Smudge · 13-11-2005, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim

oooo don't let that comment come back to bite you!

On current form, you'd expect the AB's to at least win..but 30 points is a big punt.

I predicted (on another forum) 20+-point wins over Wales and Ireland, and I've got full confidence in this side. England cannot expect to win the amount of ball they did against Australia, and they seriously don't know how to use it.

marc71178 · 14-11-2005, 01:01 AM

I'd say he was on the mark with it to be honest...

Linda · 14-11-2005, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voltman

If it's our top team, don't be surprised to see a 30-point gap after 80 minutes.

If theres one thing Id like to see right now, its that.

Smudge · 14-11-2005, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Linda

If theres one thing Id like to see right now, its that.

Why's that?

Linda · 14-11-2005, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voltman

Why's that?

Over the past couple of months its come to my attention just how disgusting English people are when they (occasionally) win...

Smudge · 14-11-2005, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linda

Over the past couple of months its come to my attention just how disgusting English people are when they (occasionally) win...

But I'm disgusting all the time yet you still seem to like New Zealanders...

Tim · 14-11-2005, 04:04 AM

I dunno mate, we're talking about Twickenham here.

Still, I'll be one of the first to congratulate you if your prediction is correct.

marc71178 · 14-11-2005, 06:27 AM

I expect a heavy defeat to be honest.

I mean we only beat the Aussies because they had their families on tour with them (or was it bad refereeing or was it injuries?!

)

Chubb · 14-11-2005, 07:50 AM

Whenever I watch the All Blacks in action I thank fate for contriving that my father was born in Waipukurau, giving me an excuse to support them.

BoyBrumby · 14-11-2005, 07:54 AM

I'd be interested to see what the spread for Saturday is. I'd be surprised if it's as high as 30 tho.

Obviously if NZ get anything like parity of posession we're right up against it. I can't see the ABs scrum being as poor as Oz's was, but with Vickery & Sheridan there we're going to ask questions of anyone up front.

Our backs are somewhat less of a cause for optimism. Tindall certainly isn't a 12, I think the Oz game showed that. The big prob we have now is that since Greenwood's legs went we don't have a natural inside centre worthy of the name. Our best option is probably Barkley who's essentially a fly-half slumming it.

I take NZ by about two scores (12-15 points sounds about right).

KennyD · 14-11-2005, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marc71178

I expect a heavy defeat to be honest.

I mean we only beat the Aussies because they had their families on tour with them (or was it bad refereeing or was it injuries?!

)

It was because George Gregan was playing instead of me.

BoyBrumby · 15-11-2005, 07:38 AM

From the beeb's website:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugb...al/4439358.stm

M Muliaina; D Howlett, T Umaga (capt), A Mauger, S Sivivatu; Dan Carter, B Kelleher; T Woodcock, K Mealamu, C Hayman, C Jack, A Williams, J Collins, R McCaw, R So'oialo.

Replacements: A Hore, N Tialata, J Eaton, M Tuialai'i, P Weepu, J Rokocoko, L MacDonald.

With Oliver not considered it looks like something not unadjacent to a full-strength pick. I'm really trying to see a cause for optimism, but am failing.

13-11-2005, 04:21 PM	#272 (permalink)
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Chubb State Captain Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,829	Whenever I watch the All Blacks in action I thank fate for contriving that my father was born in Waipukurau, giving me an excuse to support them. __________________ ZIMBABWE Somebody has to...

14-11-2005, 07:54 AM	#283 (permalink)
BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,642	I'd be interested to see what the spread for Saturday is. I'd be surprised if it's as high as 30 tho. Obviously if NZ get anything like parity of posession we're right up against it. I can't see the ABs scrum being as poor as Oz's was, but with Vickery & Sheridan there we're going to ask questions of anyone up front. Our backs are somewhat less of a cause for optimism. Tindall certainly isn't a 12, I think the Oz game showed that. The big prob we have now is that since Greenwood's legs went we don't have a natural inside centre worthy of the name. Our best option is probably Barkley who's essentially a fly-half slumming it. I take NZ by about two scores (12-15 points sounds about right). __________________ *- As featured in The Independent.* "This is not the time for namby-pamby promising youngsters who might just do something; not the time for building for the future. Pragmatism rules and they don't come more pragmatic than Rogers." - Victor Marks makes the case for stiff-legged and stiff-armed 35 year old left-handers in Ashes squads

15-11-2005, 07:38 AM	#285 (permalink)
BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,642	ABs XXII for England From the beeb's website: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugb...al/4439358.stm M Muliaina; D Howlett, T Umaga (capt), A Mauger, S Sivivatu; Dan Carter, B Kelleher; T Woodcock, K Mealamu, C Hayman, C Jack, A Williams, J Collins, R McCaw, R So'oialo. Replacements: A Hore, N Tialata, J Eaton, M Tuialai'i, P Weepu, J Rokocoko, L MacDonald. With Oliver not considered it looks like something not unadjacent to a full-strength pick. I'm really trying to see a cause for optimism, but am failing.

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13-11-2005, 08:08 PM	#273 (permalink)
Tim Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Auckland Posts: 7,888	oooo don't let that comment come back to bite you! On current form, you'd expect the AB's to at least win..but 30 points is a big punt.

14-11-2005, 01:01 AM	#275 (permalink)
marc71178 Eyes not spreadsheets Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Posts: 56,346	I'd say he was on the mark with it to be honest...

14-11-2005, 04:04 AM	#280 (permalink)
Tim Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Auckland Posts: 7,888	I dunno mate, we're talking about Twickenham here. Still, I'll be one of the first to congratulate you if your prediction is correct.

14-11-2005, 06:27 AM	#281 (permalink)
marc71178 Eyes not spreadsheets Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Posts: 56,346	I expect a heavy defeat to be honest. I mean we only beat the Aussies because they had their families on tour with them (or was it bad refereeing or was it injuries?! )

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