Somerset feels that Thorn can be an enforcer by staying within the rules of the game. Is this the same point you are trying to make?
I am suggesting that an enforcer needs to willing to deck someone from time to time. This is an unchristian attitude to have. If my memory serves me correctly Murray Mexted has questioned Thorn as an enforcer as well.
Bakkies Botha 'is a nutter' | Stuff.co.nz
Botha religous as well mate.By all accounts, Botha is a decent bloke – when not wearing rugby boots.
A religious and devoted family man, he has, in the past, said all the right things about the need to have an edge to his game – but denied that he deliberately goes out to maim opponents
I find saying this bloke is religious therfore can't be an enforcer laughable. Comparing Thorn to Jesus just stupid. Jesus can't play rugby for a number of reasons.
I agree with Somers that Thorn is an enforcer on the field and within the rules, don't need to belt blokes illegally to be an enforcer IMO.
Enforcers of Bakkies style are a dime a dozen, anyone can land a cheap shot, blokes like Thorn and others like him are quality...will lay a bloke out in a tackle/clean out and just as quickly help him back to their feet (when warranted).
I think that Botha has some confessions and forgiveness to ask for. I think thou shall not head butt is the 11th commandment.
I think my Jesus example is fine. Christians live by the motto "what would Jesus Do". So it is pretty standard to imagine Jesus in a given hypothetical scenario even though he died 2000 years ago.
Not going to press my point however as it has been weakened by your quote about Botha tbh. Good research.
In other news - I have put 5 ill advised dollars on SA after all. I am figuring that the weather is going to stop the AB running game. Fully prepared to lose my money it is just $5.
This weather has not slowed the ABs at all.
Best wishes with the bet, only being $5 makes it a bit more interesting
EDIT: that was not a shoulder charge by ranger...case of the man being played for the penalty
And the Boks make it Interesting
Last edited by ripper868; 17-07-2010 at 02:15 AM.
Two average calls from Rolland, the yellow card for Roussouw and the penalty from Ranger's "shoulder charge", crucial in the match given both teams took advantage to score points from those decisions. Given the weather conditions a decent match. Piri Weepu particularly prominent on his return to the side, and Kieran Read again excellent.
Game over with that try.
ABs ball handling >> Springboks
ABs breakdown >> Springboks
ABs tactics > Springboks
AB lineout = Springbok line out (although SA came on the second half)
McCaw and Read were standouts.
AB loose forwards >> SA loose forwards
Piennar played well when he came on. He got the ball out to the backs more quickly that Januarie.
Can't get over the turn around since last year. New law interpretations and all that.
Messi scores on the rebound.
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Genia/Cooper/Ioane/Faingaa's/Daley/Slipper/Hynes/Simmons/Higginbotham to bring the Kiwis back to Earth...Well, Genia-Cooper-A.Faingaa-Ioane maybe.
Have big raps on Anthony Faingaa, think a return to the hard running inside centre is due (enough of this 2 ball players crap when you have a halves combo like Genia/Cooper)
How's the front row fitness looking for the Wallabies? Daley & Ma'afu against either of today's prop pairings could get very ugly very quickly.
- As featured in The Independent.
"Predictably, the ending of his international career did not end the argument about Pietersen's merits, as an army of informed commentators and Piers Morgan weighed in to defend or attack him."
- The Guardian's Andrew Anthony
Think Slipper is the goods as well tbh, Weekes moving to Melbourne is a loss for the Reds but think Slipper will be more than capable of joing the 'tripod' effectively
EDIT: thats said, we are definitely are not superior in the scrum vs anyone...that also said, England need to imrpove their game plan to more than "knock on at any chance and bash em at the scrum"
Last edited by ripper868; 17-07-2010 at 07:46 AM.
Surprised about the forward dominance though as I picked that to be South Africa's strength - Spies in particular has struggled, and Burger's been strangely annonymous. Smit and Matfield have hardly excelled either though I wouldn't write either off just yet.
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