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Official Rugby Thread

Johnners

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
What this team would give for a kicker as reliable as Burke/Flatley et. al have been in the past, game was in the bag if Cooper had kicked those last 2 imo.
 

Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
Well barring Jimmy Cowan that was our best team and the aussies were missing JOC - best thing that could have happened to us.

In the world cup we will have to find another gear now - which is the way it should be - terrific character in the 2nd half - need to play with guts in the world cup. If SBW was on the bench felt he should have got a run even if just 15 minutes.

Yes Clapo - those missed kicks were important even though Aussie won - need a kicker.
 

Somerset

Cricketer Of The Year
Try to Nonu - good understanding between him and Smith (man of the match so far)
Think its quite clear that Nonu and Smith are comfortably the best centre pairing we have, with due respect to SBW. With the low versatility SBW brings in terms of ability to slot into other positions, I'm finding it difficult to imagine how he'll get a bench spot over Jane, Toeava, Dagg, Kahui, etc.

One aspect that I should've noted at halftime, was the Australians' copying the tactics of Jaque Fourie last week, with one man coming out of the line early to stop the attack. There seems to be a reluctance to call players for offside, so long as your timing isn't ridiculously early, its a useful strategy. Australia used that well, particularly in the first half. I imagine that'll have been noted by the ABs - perhaps the lob pass over the top, or just more direct running is a way to counter that.
 

Somerset

Cricketer Of The Year
Really? I didn't see 'em. Saw him get isolated a couple of times and give away a needless penalty, but precious else besides.
I agree (regarding Toeava). I like him as a player but tonight he added little in his 20 minute appearance, and could've given the game away by conceeding the kickable penalty which Cooper missed. Jane also really failed to spark and I can't remember him looking for much work by coming off his wing. Guildford as we mentioned at halftime had a shocking first half and then didn't make much impact in the second. I know its far too late now but I did think Sivivatu should've made the squad; I think putting everything aside in Super Rugby and the lazy impression he can give with his workrate, hes a proven performer at test level who does get involved, and for a supposedly lazy player is very accurate at international level.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Good win for England today. First win in Dublin since before the 2003 WC. Second try in two games fro Tuilagi too. Boy's a beast.
 

HeathDavisSpeed

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I agree (regarding Toeava). I like him as a player but tonight he added little in his 20 minute appearance, and could've given the game away by conceeding the kickable penalty which Cooper missed. Jane also really failed to spark and I can't remember him looking for much work by coming off his wing. Guildford as we mentioned at halftime had a shocking first half and then didn't make much impact in the second. I know its far too late now but I did think Sivivatu should've made the squad; I think putting everything aside in Super Rugby and the lazy impression he can give with his workrate, hes a proven performer at test level who does get involved, and for a supposedly lazy player is very accurate at international level.
Agree with all of this tbh. Jane just wasn't in the game at all. Guildford's best touch was his last one before being subbed, when he broke a tackle, but his error rate was atrocious.
 

Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
Jane is one of my fav players. All night they kicked to Guildford because they know jane is a porn star underneath the high ball - so he didn't get the chance to do any kick returns. In the first half we didn't have much ball to throw his way - and in the 2nd half the forwards took over.
He did do 1 or 2 hit ups coming in one off Dan Carter - but they (aussie) just kept the ball away from him.
 

ripper868

International Coach
Was that an "All Blacks" chant going up around Suncorp? :wacko:
It certainly was - went unanswered for a while as well but the "Wallabies" chant eventually found parity. Was Great looking around the stadium - 90% the lower section was gold, with about half of the upper section a very dark shade.

Well barring Jimmy Cowan that was our best team and the aussies were missing JOC - best thing that could have happened to us.

In the world cup we will have to find another gear now - which is the way it should be - terrific character in the 2nd half - need to play with guts in the world cup. If SBW was on the bench felt he should have got a run even if just 15 minutes.

Yes Clapo - those missed kicks were important even though Aussie won - need a kicker.
SBW wasn't on the bench in this match.

Agreed re the kicker, could really bite us in the goolies come finals time.

Cooper has been cleared of the kneeing thing. Dog act it was. Though wondering why Williams wasn't cited for his blatant trip of AAC in the second half.

Great result and fantastic for Horwill, first test as skipper and first trophy. Just needs to add the WC to the cabinet now - nobody cares about the Bledisloe :ph34r:
 

Howe_zat

Audio File
Good win for England today. First win in Dublin since before the 2003 WC. Second try in two games fro Tuilagi too. Boy's a beast.
I love Manu. Appears to have been raised in the Tigers dugout, on a diet of Martin Corry's whey protein and the blood of Northampton players.
 

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
Played against Serge Betsen in the final of a tournament yesterday. Apparently people had heard of him. I hadnt.
 

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