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    Design your own. I've probably done this before in other tournaments. But the 24 team format does produce some oddities.

    When used in Italia 90 and USA 94, the losing finalists in each had finished third in their group (it was also used in 86. And tbf was probably an improvement on the three team second group stage of 82). Validation of the format or an insult to those who'd bothered their arses to show up for their group games?

    Anyway. How many teams should be in the Euros? And either way, with 24 or however many you'd choose, what should the format be?

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    It was fine. 16 is a good number, it also means the players won't be too exhausted come the business end.

    If we are to have relentless expansion then the club leagues would have to be cut by a month and 2-4 teams.

    It also means the lower FAs really have very little incentive to improve their player education programme, as they basically have a 50-50 chance at the lottery of tournament money.

    I'm not entirely sure who is to blame for this but I believe it was the Celtic FAs who pushed hard for this at the UEFA congress, it wasn't a plan hatched in the dark lairs of Infantino/Platini.
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    So we can blame Furball, Uppercut and Nick-o?

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    To be fair though, it's only one extra game per finalist. Surely shouldn't add a fatigue factor?
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    I've always felt that 16 was the sweet spot, surprisingly the standard this tournament hasn't felt worse but I think that's because the teams from about 14 to 24 are much of a muchness whereas in the 16 team format the worst couple of teams really stand out like a sore thumb.

    The group stage has suffered for it as there's been absokutely no tension whatsoever. Like I said elsewhere, if you want to stick to 24 then fine, but only the top 2 should qualify for knock out rounds. Best 4 winners to the quarters, other 8 teams play off for a place in the last 8.
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    Tbh I don't like anything where your record in your group gives you an advantage over other groups.
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    Agreed but I think it's a better solution than what we've gor just now.

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    16 for euros is fine and 32 in a world cup while being more sees the world covered with qualifiers quite well.

    I dread the day when they make the euros a 32 team competition making qualifying almost pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIMH View Post
    So we can blame Furball, Uppercut and Nick-o?
    would you like to be blamed for what the FA suits at Wembley decide in their infinite wisdom?

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    I don't dislike the current format. But I think what makes it good also makes it bad. You can lose your first two games and still qualify for the next round. I think that's good from the point of view of keeping most matches meaningful, but it also just seems wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel_Vimes View Post
    would you like to be blamed for what the FA suits at Wembley decide in their infinite wisdom?
    I'm on record as hating Greg Dyke so I'm safe tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIMH View Post
    To be fair though, it's only one extra game per finalist. Surely shouldn't add a fatigue factor?
    Might be wrong on this one but the competition doesn't appear to be much longer than normal.

    It also ****s teams and players for the start of the season proper, not relevant at the moment because Scotland are pish but Rangers have gone back into pre-season after a 4 week break and our first competitive game is the 15th of July. Just when exactly are the top players meant to have a holiday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furball View Post
    Might be wrong on this one but the competition doesn't appear to be much longer than normal.

    It also ****s teams and players for the start of the season proper, not relevant at the moment because Scotland are pish but Rangers have gone back into pre-season after a 4 week break and our first competitive game is the 15th of July. Just when exactly are the top players meant to have a holiday?
    Pretty sure the Euros was three weeks in the old format so it's an extra week long

    We play Liverpool before the tournament is even over. Looks like it will be a strong side

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    Really doesn't sit right with me that Portugal, who failed to win a game, have advanced when Albania, who did win a game, have been eliminated.

    The bracket's just ended up weird as **** as well, all the major nations are in the same half. Spain or Italy's "easiest" match (on paper) is likely to be in the final.
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