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    Just as well the Italy v Belgium group game isn't tonight. Reckon both sides would be trying to lose that one, although it's bizarre thinking that (assuming they get the job done vs Sweden) Belgium have actually benefitted from losing to Italy.
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    Sweden win and Italy not losing would see France v Belgium, just to make the bottom half of the draw even more fiendish.

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    So far we have:

    Left half of the draw

    Switzerland v Poland
    Croatia v Portugal

    and

    Wales v N Ireland/Turkey
    Hungary v Group E 2nd place


    Right half

    Germany v Slovakia
    Italy v Spain

    and

    France v 3E or N Ireland
    England v Iceland


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    If anything needs fixing it's the knockout rounds, 2 of the 3 worst games so far were yesterday. The group stage games were low scoring but they were fairly open, yesterday was just bad (although in NI's case they were playing quite positively, just lacked talent).

    The World Cup had absolute shite knockout games after some really good stuff in the group stages. A situation where neither side needs to score seems to lead to a lot of negative football. It's also convincing me that eliminating away goals in the CL would be a bad idea.

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    Agree. How do you fix it though?

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    The crap games yesterday weren't a format problem. It's down to the attitude of the coaches. I don't think there's really any alternative to the knock-out format.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIMH View Post
    Agree. How do you fix it though?
    Maybe get rid of penalties and turn extra time into an indefinite game of golden goal. That way defensive football is in nobody's interest, because whoever eventually gets through will be exhausted after playing for three hours. I haven't really thought that through though, so I'm not sure.

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    The whole point of playing defensive football isn't to get to penalties, it's about using your resources effectively. Regardless of how big the gulf is between teams it would be unusual for an inferior team to not have at least 1 or 2 shots on goal - sometimes that's all you need to win a game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uppercut View Post
    Maybe get rid of penalties and turn extra time into an indefinite game of golden goal. That way defensive football is in nobody's interest, because whoever eventually gets through will be exhausted after playing for three hours. I haven't really thought that through though, so I'm not sure.
    I liked the idea of progressively removing players.

    It's not football, but it's more recognizably football than penalty shoot-outs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel_Vimes View Post
    I liked the idea of progressively removing players.

    It's not football, but it's more recognizably football than penalty shoot-outs.
    You're not getting rid of penalties. If anything they'll go straight to penalties without extra time.

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    I once saw a suggestion for penalties to be taken before the game. Would only result in the winning side setting up camp though

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    How about replays? Absolutely no side will want to play for a replay in such a short competition span, it will kill a team, so teams will have to get more attacking as the game goes on otherwise they are in effect eliminated anyway due to the fatigue of the extra game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel_Vimes View Post
    I liked the idea of progressively removing players.

    It's not football, but it's more recognizably football than penalty shoot-outs.
    I think removing players or playing forever could end up being much bigger farce then penalties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pothas View Post
    I think removing players or playing forever could end up being much bigger farce then penalties.
    First to go should be the keeper.

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