The fact it was offside raises a decent question tbf. With goal line tech in place presumably a goal would have been given. That doesn't seem right really. Thoughts?
Would half the number of useless ****s who ****ed it up though, so its a start. Guess 2 wrongs did make a right that time
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It's a bit like a goal umpire in AFL. His or her job is to decide whether the ball has gone between the sticks, not to decide whether something in the lead up means the player shouldn't have been in position to kick the ball to start with.
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Well that's the rub though, isn't it? Because there aren't as many stoppages in soccer as other codes of football, it's really a question of where you draw the line. Only on goal-related decisions? Free kicks given in general play? Or free kicks not given? It's pretty difficult.
The general flow of the game doesn't really lend itself to video technology, save for determining whether a goal has been scored. If you have it for offsides, is it for all offsides, or only those which directly lead to a goal, etc etc? I mean, what if there's an offside ball played and then four or fivepasses later a goal is scored?
Obviously it won't happen when England is attacking, because they can't string that many passes together. But the point still stands.
I'd say give the ref powers to refer any goals he has his doubts about upstairs, like the NB rule in DRS
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Where do you start looking though? The game has few stoppages. Does the ref tell the video bloke "Go back about a minute and a half, I might have missed an illegal challenge when the team who just scored took possession?"
Tend to think you just run with goal line technology tbh. The primacie of the goal is what makes football, football.
Ukraine's "goal" was over the line, no doubt, but it was equally as apparent matey received the ball in an offside position before he laid it on. Seems contrary to natural justice if it'd stood because they was GL tech but the officials couldn't check offside.
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The only problem with the natural end thing is what is the natural end is the other team getting a free kick in a dangerous position (as happened on Tuesday) or even a penalty or goal?
What if the natural end is one of the team that scored committing a 2 footed tackle or punched someone?
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Also there are fairly regularly 6 or 7 minute periods when the ball doesn't go out of play, it seems silly that the two teams would play on for that long not sure whether it's going to count or not.
Maybe they could get an official to look at the video while the game is still going on and inform the ref via earpiece.
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We have our traditional scapegoat now. If they had spotted the fouls on John Terry, Ingerlund would have won. We woz robbed etc...
That being said, I think we should credit the assistant ref for spotting Andy Carroll looking at his marker in a funny way and penalising him accordingly whilst Terry and other were having their shirts removed.
Doesn't mean we were robbed, obv.
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