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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Same reason he ended up at Bradford & was pretty much out of the game by 30, tbh. He was a fat snatch rat who wasted his talent. Didn't want it enough.
    Once he got properly crocked at Leeds, yes, he basically coasted out his career on his reputation.

    Before that though, when fit he was fantastic for us most of the time. Sure you can put his excess injuries down to his lazyness at times, but he did have a bit of bad luck too (you dont get meningitis by being slouchy in training)


    Still, only 8 caps in 4 years, and people like Andy Sinton playing instead....
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    if you play all of terry and rio and fat frank and that old liverpool guy in the same team you deserve to lose to ukraine
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpr View Post
    Once he got properly crocked at Leeds, yes, he basically coasted out his career on his reputation.

    Before that though, when fit he was fantastic for us most of the time. Sure you can put his excess injuries down to his lazyness at times, but he did have a bit of bad luck too (you dont get meningitis by being slouchy in training)


    Still, only 8 caps in 4 years, and people like Andy Sinton playing instead....
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    Quote Originally Posted by GIMH View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    I'm becoming inceasingly pessimistic of our chances of even making it out of the group. France are on the up after their world cup debacle, we've only beaten Sweden once since 1968 and our last game is against the hosts, who defeated us in qualifying for the 2010 WC.
    To which you could add our quite diabolical record in euros that weren't played in England.
    From memory, failed to get past the group stage in 1980, 1988, 1992 and 2000.
    Managed to get past the group stage in 2004.
    Didn't even qualify in 1984 and 2008.

    I'm off to the nearest bookie.

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    Was wondering if we should have an England thread, so we can witter away to our spleens content, and real football teams can be left to real football threads.

    Anywhoo good and bad news here.

    Obviously the good that Smalling is injured and the bad that Wellbeck is fit...
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    Quote Originally Posted by grecian View Post
    Was wondering if we should have an England thread, so we can witter away to our spleens content, and real football teams can be left to real football threads.

    Anywhoo good and bad news here.

    Obviously the good that Smalling is injured and the bad that Wellbeck is fit...
    Smalling has a groin issue then.

    Turns out he's a bollocks defender.

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    So Rio not being picked, means we are going to get John ****ing Terry in the squad.

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    Who will be captain? Surprised there hasn't been much talk around that

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    Picking Terry over Rio is a strange decision if true, assuming it was a one vs the other situation.

    Apparently Richards, Walker & Crouch have been left out too.


    This what Hodgson said yesterday also -

    Hodgson drops squad hint | England Football Team News, Fixtures, Results | Sky Sports

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIMH View Post
    Who will be captain? Surprised there hasn't been much talk around that
    I think Gerrard is the overwhelming favorite to get it, which then can cause it's own share of problems in terms of his place in the starting 11.

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    Yeah I'm a big Gerrard advocate but his fitness is a concern so it's a funny one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cevno View Post
    Picking Terry over Rio is a strange decision if true, assuming it was a one vs the other situation.

    Apparently Richards, Walker & Crouch have been left out too.


    This what Hodgson said yesterday also -

    Hodgson drops squad hint | England Football Team News, Fixtures, Results | Sky Sports
    Richards and Walker left out? Woy not bothering with a right back at all then? & no, Glen Johnson or Phil Jones don't count.

    Can sort of see Rio's omission, aging, lost pace, still prone to the eff up, but if it means Hodgson takes Captain Racist then I call bullshot.

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