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    Guess that's the end of Lampard's England career then.

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    Well at least that means he can't play Lampard and Gerrard, Henderson though, I mean really.

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    Haha, a midfield of Henderson, Lampard, Gerrard and Downing, that really would be something to marvel at.

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    Downing's delivery tends to be in the right area, rather than going for the killer ball which sets up a near tap-in if it's absolutely pin-point. As for the stat about no assists - well there's also that stat about he created the most chances. It's kind of meaningless really. He has had plenty of assists when playing for England.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaly piscine View Post
    Downing's delivery tends to be in the right area, rather than going for the killer ball which sets up a near tap-in if it's absolutely pin-point. As for the stat about no assists - well there's also that stat about he created the most chances. It's kind of meaningless really. He has had plenty of assists when playing for England.
    The right area? So he kicks it vaguely in the direction of the opposition goal, in other words.

    I really wouldn't say the fact that an attacking player has ZERO assists or goals throughout the course of an entire season is in any way meaningless either.

    I'd also wager the majority of his assists for England have come against fodder opposition, at home, in the early stages of qualification for major tournaments. I can't even remember him playing in a game of major significance, let alone making any meaningful contribution.

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    He is just self evidently crap to be honest.

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    Have to say, I really do feel unclean talking about stats. 36 games without a goal or assist is possibly a statistical anomaly, yet the important thing is 'pool have looked a worse team with him in it.

    His goal-scoring record is poor though, would ideally want a forward to bang in a few more goals. Never scored for England has he?

    Yet who cares really, he shouldn't have ever played for England, but there's no great alternatives.
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    Henderson has finally managed to make it.

    It's basically Gerrard and Parker for England now, with all unproven backups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grecian View Post
    Disagree slightly, actually think he is pretty quick. Can't beat a player and has little technical ability, and I don't think he has a good delivery considering that's his main selling point, average I'd call it, but he can sprint a bit.
    Yeah, agreed. Though it almost seems he has somehow lost bit of that pace since he moved to Liverpool....

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    Well, M'vila has apparently picked up a injury for France against Serbia.

    Was in tears on the bench.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcuss View Post
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    Won't play apart from the odd 10 minute cameo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flibbertyjibber View Post
    Won't play apart from the odd 10 minute cameo.
    Well the way our midfielders are dropping like flies he could start every game. Wouldn't be displeased if he did, giving the other options.

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    I get what Scaly is saying about Downings delivery, he puts decent balls into the box which you'd expect a predatory striker to send goalwards - a Rooney, a Drogba etc.

    Problem is he's been firing it at a half asleep Carroll all year.

    If Liverpool had a decent striker all year (not against Suarez here, he isn't the 6 yard predator type, he needs a partner), I reckon Downing might've had 5 more assists easily. Just a shame that would take him up to the still crap total of 5.


    Still, least he's got a big target to hit them to in the shape of Andy Car..... ****
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