***Official*** Road to Euro 2012 - Page 15

GingerFurball · 15-10-2011, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by wpdavid

Nice optimism, but history suggests otherwise. Our record in Euro finals is even worse than in WCs. Since the group stage was introduced, we've failed to progress on four occasions (1980, 1988, 1992 and 2000) compared to two when we've made it through (1996 and 2004), one of which we had home advantage. And we had better teams on many of those occasions than we currently do.

The likeliest scenario is that the final group game will be vital. If Rooney is one of four strikers in the squad and two of the other get injured or suspended for that game, then we have problems. I couldn't blame Cappello for leaving him behind.

Ukraine and Poland will take 2 of the spaces available in Pot 1, with Spain and the Netherlands taking the other two; England could draw Spain and get a tough team from pot 3, which makes qualification out of the groups quite a tricky prospect.

Scaly piscine · 11-11-2011, 02:11 PM

Hmm they will be a happy lot over in Turkey. Ireland looking decent, 1-0 up away in Estonia with a man advantage.

Hope Portugal get knocked out. They're like a less skilful and even more tedious version of Spain.

Scaly piscine · 11-11-2011, 02:17 PM

Ireland 2-0 up now.

And now 3-0 with a 2 man advantage.

GingerFurball · 11-11-2011, 03:50 PM

I know it's only a friendly:

Oh, Balotelli, he's a striker, he's good at darts

BoyBrumby · 11-11-2011, 04:17 PM

Estonia officially "more than a bit turd" then.

How the blue feck they finished second in their group is staggering.

Scaly piscine · 12-11-2011, 09:59 AM

Lescott playing. FFS. Aren't there any English central defenders who aren't that donkey or the turd who plays like he's stuck in treacle.

Spain for 75% possession.

Also Adam Johnson absent again. He's a different class to guys like Walcott and Milner. There's no substitute for class at international level.

Scaly piscine · 12-11-2011, 10:28 AM

Looks only a matter of time before Spain get in behind England.

Spain never look that solid at the back though, it's a different game if you make your chance count - instead of bollocksing it up big style as all Spain's opponents in the World Cup did, well except in their first match.

Scaly piscine · 12-11-2011, 11:03 AM

Same old. England can't pass for toffee, Spain have the best players in the World but they have a really ineffective method. Spain making this game a toss-up when they should beat England comfortably.

GingerFurball · 12-11-2011, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Scaly piscine

Same old. England can't pass for toffee, Spain have the best players in the World but they have a really ineffective method. Spain making this game a toss-up when they should beat England comfortably.

Football's played over 90 minutes, chasing shadows for 70 minutes will eventually tell.

I agree that sometimes Spain could use the ball a bit quicker, and I think Xabi Alonso is overkill in the midfield. Cesc on for Xabi Alonso would give them more impetus in the final third.

grecian · 12-11-2011, 11:16 AM

It's a friendly, no-one cares, certainly not the players, it's yawnsville.

Oh, and btw, I quite Like Danny Baker, but has there ever been a more non-sensical tweet than this:

"So the next and best England manager now faces trial over a cash sum less than the current and worst England manager earns every week."

Just how many levels is it wrong on?

Scaly piscine · 12-11-2011, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by GingerFurball

Football's played over 90 minutes, chasing shadows for 70 minutes will eventually tell.

I agree that sometimes Spain could use the ball a bit quicker, and I think Xabi Alonso is overkill in the midfield. Cesc on for Xabi Alonso would give them more impetus in the final third.

I think the chasing shadows thing is overplayed, it wasn't like Spain were running out 3/4 nil winners in the World Cup. They'd just create a chance at some point purely because of their quality.

Barcelona do run teams ragged a bit more because they're more aggressive, commit defenders more etc.

1-0 up heh.

Scaly piscine · 12-11-2011, 11:32 AM

Ramos should have been sent off for that.

GingerFurball · 12-11-2011, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Scaly piscine

Ramos should have been sent off for that.

No coincidence he plays his club football for Mourinho.

BoyBrumby · 12-11-2011, 11:55 AM

Cesc should've surely had a crack himself rather than squaring it? Parker did so well.

Scaly piscine · 12-11-2011, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

Cesc should've surely had a crack himself rather than squaring it? Parker did so well.

Yep. Also looked like contact from Barry there in the penalty area. Stupid.

England just hoofing the ball every time they get it.

11-11-2011, 02:11 PM	#212 (permalink)
Scaly piscine Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 18,522	Hmm they will be a happy lot over in Turkey. Ireland looking decent, 1-0 up away in Estonia with a man advantage. Hope Portugal get knocked out. They're like a less skilful and even more tedious version of Spain. __________________ National Scrabble Champion 2009, 8th in 2009 World Championships, gold medal (team) at Causeway, 2011 Masters Champion 24 Hour Scrabble World Record Attempt for Charity, in aid of Daisy Chain and End Polio Now Countdown Series 57 Champion King of the Arcade Reply from mods to my prank bans in public: Reply from mods to my prank bans in private: MSN - evil_budgie @ hotmail.co.uk Last edited by Scaly piscine; 11-11-2011 at 02:12 PM.

11-11-2011, 02:17 PM	#213 (permalink)
Scaly piscine Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 18,522	Ireland 2-0 up now. And now 3-0 with a 2 man advantage. Last edited by Scaly piscine; 11-11-2011 at 02:25 PM.

11-11-2011, 04:17 PM	#215 (permalink)
BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,629	Estonia officially "more than a bit turd" then. How the blue feck they finished second in their group is staggering. __________________ *- As featured in The Independent.* "This is not the time for namby-pamby promising youngsters who might just do something; not the time for building for the future. Pragmatism rules and they don't come more pragmatic than Rogers." - Victor Marks makes the case for stiff-legged and stiff-armed 35 year old left-handers in Ashes squads

12-11-2011, 09:59 AM	#216 (permalink)
Scaly piscine Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 18,522	Lescott playing. FFS. Aren't there any English central defenders who aren't that donkey or the turd who plays like he's stuck in treacle. Spain for 75% possession. Also Adam Johnson absent again. He's a different class to guys like Walcott and Milner. There's no substitute for class at international level. Last edited by Scaly piscine; 12-11-2011 at 10:02 AM.

12-11-2011, 11:16 AM	#220 (permalink)
grecian International Coach Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hanging on ! Posts: 11,291	It's a friendly, no-one cares, certainly not the players, it's yawnsville. Oh, and btw, I quite Like Danny Baker, but has there ever been a more non-sensical tweet than this: "So the next and best England manager now faces trial over a cash sum less than the current and worst England manager earns every week." Just how many levels is it wrong on? __________________ Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes. Walt Whitman Last edited by grecian; 12-11-2011 at 11:19 AM.

11-11-2011, 03:50 PM	#214 (permalink)
GingerFurball Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Crabs Subbie Posts: 15,430	I know it's only a friendly: Oh, Balotelli, he's a striker, he's good at darts

12-11-2011, 10:28 AM	#217 (permalink)
Scaly piscine Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 18,522	Looks only a matter of time before Spain get in behind England. Spain never look that solid at the back though, it's a different game if you make your chance count - instead of bollocksing it up big style as all Spain's opponents in the World Cup did, well except in their first match.

12-11-2011, 11:03 AM	#218 (permalink)
Scaly piscine Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 18,522	Same old. England can't pass for toffee, Spain have the best players in the World but they have a really ineffective method. Spain making this game a toss-up when they should beat England comfortably.

12-11-2011, 11:32 AM	#222 (permalink)
Scaly piscine Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 18,522	Ramos should have been sent off for that.

12-11-2011, 11:55 AM	#224 (permalink)
BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,629	Cesc should've surely had a crack himself rather than squaring it? Parker did so well.

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