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Scaly piscine · 03-09-2011, 10:33 AM

Oh and I actually looked at the rules and away goals do count in the head to head, so a score draw against Montenegro puts England through. Montenegro would need a net gain of 9 goal difference on England if it's 0-0 to pull level. So yea Montenegro have to beat England basically and match England's result with Wales.

Just in case anyone wanted an accurate run-down before some ****wit calls Wales a must-win game or some such then goes on about how complicated the situation is for their own feeble mind to comprehend.

flibbertyjibber · 03-09-2011, 10:48 AM

Scotland

They will be doing their usual trick in the tournamant then, supporting whoever England play as they won't be there themselves as they are ****.

marc71178 · 03-09-2011, 11:06 AM

The sound of Pat Nevin moaning about how that penalty decision is the sole reason they've been knocked out was amusing I must say.

Scaly piscine · 06-09-2011, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Scaly piscine

Oh and I actually looked at the rules and away goals do count in the head to head, so a score draw against Montenegro puts England through. Montenegro would need a net gain of 9 goal difference on England if it's 0-0 to pull level. So yea Montenegro have to beat England basically and match England's result with Wales.

Just in case anyone wanted an accurate run-down before some ****wit calls Wales a must-win game or some such then goes on about how complicated the situation is for their own feeble mind to comprehend.

Just adding to this that England would be still highly likely to automatically qualify (best runners-up) if they beat Wales and lost to Montenegro. I think only Sweden could finish above England (barring some massive goal difference swings), Sweden would have to beat Finland away and Netherlands at home along with a freebie against San Marino.

Edit: Suppose someone in Group H could do it too with the right permutation of results.

Samuel_Vimes · 06-09-2011, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Scaly piscine

Edit: Suppose someone in Group H could do it too with the right permutation of results.

It's a **** group, so no doubt it will provide the best runner-up...

Scaly piscine · 06-09-2011, 01:06 PM

Grrr hit the ****ing ball when you're 20-25 yards out you shaven ape. Might score 1 in a 10,000 chipping it like that - when the keeper gets dizzy and palms it into the net.

Milner gets a dumb yellow. Can we take him off now? He's a hard worker in the gym, training etc. but just isn't very good.

Scaly piscine · 06-09-2011, 02:19 PM

England's fannying about pretty much earns them an equalizer, except Earnshaw misses one of the easiest chances of all time.

Scaly piscine · 06-09-2011, 02:34 PM

Also love how when Ashley Young knocks a ball into the middle and there's no-one there it's a "searching cross", but when Downing does it it's "the ball's not good enough". The difference between TMS and football commentary is just incredible. This lot simply cannot just commentate on the game without constantly reminding you of their bias.

Anyway this formation is rather too negative without someone pacy to make runs beyond the back line. Young and Downing do it to an extent, although more out wide. But at best there'll be Rooney in the box if it's a remotely quick break and there's a decent position. There needs to be more pace in central midfield anyway because England still have this thing of randomly getting caught 4 on 4 or other even/worse men breaks from a couple of simple passes. They get away with it in these games, but not against good teams. An extra player coming back to cover makes all the difference.

Samuel_Vimes · 06-09-2011, 03:13 PM

Norn Iron One...Four? To Estonia?

Also Slovakia's fall from grace deserves mention. Beat Italy a year ago and now fall 0-4 to Armenia.

Norway showed why they don't deserve a place at the Euros, at least. But with a fluky draw and expansion we should make it to Euro 2016.

flibbertyjibber · 06-09-2011, 03:42 PM

We were crap but won. Press will probably slaughter them tomorrow.

Burgey · 06-09-2011, 06:33 PM

Recall Marc bagging Australian posters for being happy about beating Wales not that long ago.

BoyBrumby · 07-09-2011, 12:31 PM

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Recall Marc bagging Australian posters for being happy about beating Wales not that long ago.

We're not exactly decking the streets with bunting here, tbf.

duffer · 11-09-2011, 05:39 AM

t'riffic news tbh

grecian · 11-09-2011, 05:52 AM

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t'riffic news tbh

So we'd have to pay Spurs 15 mill, on top of his wages. Oh gawd what a nightmare.

GIMH · 11-09-2011, 06:48 AM

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03-09-2011, 10:33 AM	#166 (permalink)
Scaly piscine Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 18,511	Oh and I actually looked at the rules and away goals do count in the head to head, so a score draw against Montenegro puts England through. Montenegro would need a net gain of 9 goal difference on England if it's 0-0 to pull level. So yea Montenegro have to beat England basically and match England's result with Wales. Just in case anyone wanted an accurate run-down before some ***wit calls Wales a must-win game or some such then goes on about how complicated the situation is for their own feeble mind to comprehend. __________________ National Scrabble Champion 2009, 8th in 2009 World Championships, gold medal (team) at Causeway, 2011 Masters Champion 24 Hour Scrabble World Record Attempt for Charity, in aid of Daisy Chain and End Polio Now Countdown Series 57 Champion King of the Arcade Reply from mods to my prank bans in public: Reply from mods to my prank bans in private: MSN - evil_budgie @ hotmail.co.uk Last edited by Scaly piscine; 03-09-2011 at 10:34 AM.*

03-09-2011, 11:06 AM	#168 (permalink)
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Scaly piscine Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 18,511	Grrr hit the ***ing ball when you're 20-25 yards out you shaven ape. Might score 1 in a 10,000 chipping it like that - when the keeper gets dizzy and palms it into the net. Milner gets a dumb yellow. Can we take him off now? He's a hard worker in the gym, training etc. but just isn't very good. Last edited by Scaly piscine; 06-09-2011 at 01:08 PM.*

06-09-2011, 06:33 PM	#176 (permalink)
Burgey Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The Castle Posts: 35,135	Recall Marc bagging Australian posters for being happy about beating Wales not that long ago. __________________ WWCC - Loyaulte Mi Lie "People make me happy.. not places.. people" "When a man is tired of London, he is tired of life." - Samuel Johnson "Oh my God, there's a castle! A castle!"

11-09-2011, 05:39 AM	#178 (permalink)
duffer International Coach Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: So appalled... Posts: 11,338	t'riffic news tbh __________________ We talking about practice

03-09-2011, 10:48 AM	#167 (permalink)
flibbertyjibber Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: England Posts: 7,931	Scotland They will be doing their usual trick in the tournamant then, supporting whoever England play as they won't be there themselves as they are ****.

06-09-2011, 02:19 PM	#172 (permalink)
Scaly piscine Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 18,511	England's fannying about pretty much earns them an equalizer, except Earnshaw misses one of the easiest chances of all time.

06-09-2011, 02:34 PM	#173 (permalink)
Scaly piscine Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 18,511	Also love how when Ashley Young knocks a ball into the middle and there's no-one there it's a "searching cross", but when Downing does it it's "the ball's not good enough". The difference between TMS and football commentary is just incredible. This lot simply cannot just commentate on the game without constantly reminding you of their bias. Anyway this formation is rather too negative without someone pacy to make runs beyond the back line. Young and Downing do it to an extent, although more out wide. But at best there'll be Rooney in the box if it's a remotely quick break and there's a decent position. There needs to be more pace in central midfield anyway because England still have this thing of randomly getting caught 4 on 4 or other even/worse men breaks from a couple of simple passes. They get away with it in these games, but not against good teams. An extra player coming back to cover makes all the difference.

06-09-2011, 03:13 PM	#174 (permalink)
Samuel_Vimes Cricket Web: All-Time Legend Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Oslo Posts: 22,255	Norn Iron One...Four? To Estonia? Also Slovakia's fall from grace deserves mention. Beat Italy a year ago and now fall 0-4 to Armenia. Norway showed why they don't deserve a place at the Euros, at least. But with a fluky draw and expansion we should make it to Euro 2016.

06-09-2011, 03:42 PM	#175 (permalink)
flibbertyjibber Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: England Posts: 7,931	We were crap but won. Press will probably slaughter them tomorrow.

11-09-2011, 06:48 AM	#180 (permalink)
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