The Red Thread

Slats4ever · 02-09-2004, 06:34 PM

I'm creating this thread so we can hav all our talks in a thread of our own and not so much in the public eye...

It's time we really got together as a team and really worked things out. Personally I'm not overly concerned about our results at the moment, we're not playing overly bad, but more the approach and attitudes of the players.

In a team environment if you feel that one person has done someting wrong for you then to fire up and get angry is you doing something wrong personally, and 2 wrongs don't make a right.

The best things for the reds to do would be to sit in here, talk our problems over with eachother and become a team again. Forget what other teams members have to say... they mean nothing to us!!!

So for all you reds with concerns talk them over in here we'll all give our opinions on them and hopefully we can get things back on track.

Slats4ever · 02-09-2004, 06:53 PM

I dunno about constantly chopping and changing the team around. I think players need to be able to find their feet in the side especially the young guys!!! A guy shouldn't be dropped if he fails twice or whatever yet given time to find his form!!!

I'd rather spend time on the bench for 5 games than for some young guy to be swapped week in week out to find an answer to our problems.

Mister Wright · 02-09-2004, 06:58 PM

I agree, I think it is time for the Red's to get together as a team, and start thinking like a team and start playing like one.

Nobody likes losing, but if you lose in a positive way, as in the luck doesn't go your way, or there were things out of your control than you can take positives from a loss. However, if we have in-fighting and back-stabbing we will go nowhere.

We also need to stand behind our captain and I think that would be made easier if our captain discussed matters with senior players, and team members before important decisions are made.

I think the Reds probably have the most talented bunch of players in the domestic league, and we are only letting ourselves down, we can turn it around with team work and cohesion.

SupaFreak2005 · 02-09-2004, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slats4ever

I dunno about constantly chopping and changing the team around. I think players need to be able to find their feet in the side especially the young guys!!! A guy shouldn't be dropped if he fails twice or whatever yet given time to find his form!!!

I'd rather spend time on the bench for 5 games than for some young guy to be swapped week in week out to find an answer to our problems.

I agree ..... I'll never be picked for 2 games in a row ........ i've been picked 3 times and dropped the following game each time!

marc71178 · 03-09-2004, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mister Wright

We also need to stand behind our captain and I think that would be made easier if our captain discussed matters with senior players, and team members before important decisions are made.

I do do this though.

steds · 03-09-2004, 04:24 AM

Come on Reds. Our internal fighting has made us the laughing stock of the league this season, but if we all pull together, we can move on to great things in the development league in the future.

Mister Wright · 03-09-2004, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by marc71178

I do do this though.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I consider myself a senior member of the Red's squad. I could be wrong?

I was never consulted on the Mr. P. decision.

Slats4ever · 03-09-2004, 07:05 PM

yeah i wasn't included until very late either mate. i think everyone should be questioned on it. we all stand by you but we want to be able to take part in the discussions of this team from the outset. I just heard that he was going in the forums... that's the first i'd read of it!!!

let this all just be a lesson to all of us. we've all probably learn something out've it now i think it's time to put it all behind us. before any major decisions are made... discuss them in a thread like this. it'll keep everyone happy.. and stand behind your leader we're not out've any of the comps yet

marc71178 · 04-09-2004, 08:03 AM

There's only so many people I can talk to.

I think the feeling amongst the players has been expressed in the various threads, and I've tried to act on them.

Yousuf_Youhana · 05-09-2004, 07:31 AM

Maybe we should have a new system, no offence to marc, you're a great captain but we need success dont we, so I would suggest giving the captaincy to someone who's been the best in the season so far and give him a one-game or two-game captaincy trial or something, the only way we can go forward is by making changes but marc i only think that this should happen on your approval

edit: marc btw im not against you being captain, i might get stick for this, i will still support your captaincy whether or not this goes on, i know where still in the tournament so we're not doing bad but mybe its morale

steds · 05-09-2004, 08:25 AM

We're not a bad team and Marc's not a bad captain.
Things will sort themselves out(hopefully)

Jamee999 · 05-09-2004, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yousuf_Youhana

Maybe we should have a new system, no offence to marc, you're a great captain but we need success dont we, so I would suggest giving the captaincy to someone who's been the best in the season so far and give him a one-game or two-game captaincy trial or something, the only way we can go forward is by making changes but marc i only think that this should happen on your approval

edit: marc btw im not against you being captain, i might get stick for this, i will still support your captaincy whether or not this goes on, i know where still in the tournament so we're not doing bad but mybe its morale

Who do you suggest? Mr.Wright and Slats are the only contenders really.

Mr.Ponting has left the team in un-rest, Dave's too in-expierienced Vimesy's crap:P...

Andre · 05-09-2004, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamee999

Who do you suggest? Mr.Wright and Slats are the only contenders really.

Mr.Ponting has left the team in un-rest, Dave's too in-expierienced Vimesy's crap:P...

Nose out, please...

Jamee999 · 05-09-2004, 12:13 PM

I was only trying to help (read make you self-implode :P)

Slats4ever · 05-09-2004, 06:14 PM

Yousuf was only trying to help bugs. what's wrong with people voicing there opinions in a team situation... it seems like things are all cruisy at the top but as soon as someone else says something then there's attack.

Yousuf mate I don't believe in a trial. either it happens or it doesn't!!!! two games wouldn't be near enough time for someone to get themeselves settled... but it was a good suggestion.

02-09-2004, 06:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
Slats4ever International Vice-Captain Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Warwickshire HQ Posts: 4,294	The Red Thread I'm creating this thread so we can hav all our talks in a thread of our own and not so much in the public eye... It's time we really got together as a team and really worked things out. Personally I'm not overly concerned about our results at the moment, we're not playing overly bad, but more the approach and attitudes of the players. In a team environment if you feel that one person has done someting wrong for you then to fire up and get angry is you doing something wrong personally, and 2 wrongs don't make a right. The best things for the reds to do would be to sit in here, talk our problems over with eachother and become a team again. Forget what other teams members have to say... they mean nothing to us!!! So for all you reds with concerns talk them over in here we'll all give our opinions on them and hopefully we can get things back on track. __________________ WCC - Manager of Warwickshire Last edited by Slats4ever; 02-09-2004 at 06:54 PM.

03-09-2004, 07:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
Slats4ever International Vice-Captain Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Warwickshire HQ Posts: 4,294	yeah i wasn't included until very late either mate. i think everyone should be questioned on it. we all stand by you but we want to be able to take part in the discussions of this team from the outset. I just heard that he was going in the forums... that's the first i'd read of it!!! let this all just be a lesson to all of us. we've all probably learn something out've it now i think it's time to put it all behind us. before any major decisions are made... discuss them in a thread like this. it'll keep everyone happy.. and stand behind your leader we're not out've any of the comps yet Last edited by Slats4ever; 03-09-2004 at 07:15 PM.

05-09-2004, 07:31 AM	#10 (permalink)
Yousuf_Youhana U19 12th Man Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: UK, Birmingham Posts: 210	Maybe we should have a new system, no offence to marc, you're a great captain but we need success dont we, so I would suggest giving the captaincy to someone who's been the best in the season so far and give him a one-game or two-game captaincy trial or something, the only way we can go forward is by making changes but marc i only think that this should happen on your approval edit: marc btw im not against you being captain, i might get stick for this, i will still support your captaincy whether or not this goes on, i know where still in the tournament so we're not doing bad but mybe its morale Last edited by Yousuf_Youhana; 05-09-2004 at 07:34 AM.

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02-09-2004, 06:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
Slats4ever International Vice-Captain Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Warwickshire HQ Posts: 4,294	I dunno about constantly chopping and changing the team around. I think players need to be able to find their feet in the side especially the young guys!!! A guy shouldn't be dropped if he fails twice or whatever yet given time to find his form!!! I'd rather spend time on the bench for 5 games than for some young guy to be swapped week in week out to find an answer to our problems.

03-09-2004, 04:24 AM	#6 (permalink)
steds Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Riding public transport back and forth Posts: 16,914	Come on Reds. Our internal fighting has made us the laughing stock of the league this season, but if we all pull together, we can move on to great things in the development league in the future.

04-09-2004, 08:03 AM	#9 (permalink)
marc71178 Eyes not spreadsheets Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Posts: 56,346	There's only so many people I can talk to. I think the feeling amongst the players has been expressed in the various threads, and I've tried to act on them.

05-09-2004, 08:25 AM	#11 (permalink)
steds Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Riding public transport back and forth Posts: 16,914	We're not a bad team and Marc's not a bad captain. Things will sort themselves out(hopefully)

05-09-2004, 12:13 PM	#14 (permalink)
Jamee999 Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Leicestershire, UK Posts: 15,068	I was only trying to help (read make you self-implode :P)

05-09-2004, 06:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
Slats4ever International Vice-Captain Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Warwickshire HQ Posts: 4,294	Yousuf was only trying to help bugs. what's wrong with people voicing there opinions in a team situation... it seems like things are all cruisy at the top but as soon as someone else says something then there's attack. Yousuf mate I don't believe in a trial. either it happens or it doesn't!!!! two games wouldn't be near enough time for someone to get themeselves settled... but it was a good suggestion.

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