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33rd Match - New Zealand v Pakistan
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aussie tragic
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Pakistan to cause an upset, they've had the wood on NZ since 1992 semi-final 
Athlai
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Haha yeah I’m sure all those pre 2000s results really weigh heavily on the minds of these players. Though you could also say that we’ve won every World Cup match against them in the last 19 years.Pakistan to cause an upset, they've had the wood on NZ since 1992 semi-final
Moss
International Vice-Captain
The Windies game was probably good preparation for NZ for a matchup like this, though Pakistan possess a smarter and more varied attack than the Windies. Would be great if Guptill, Latham or Neesham plays a substantial knock, can't depend on Williamson and Taylor to deliver the goods each and every time.
James
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You could just imagine Kane being banned for the semi-final ....https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/crick...iamson-has-suspension-threat-hanging-over-him
Stupid rule to have in a place.... suspension threat over 1 over?
Stupid rule to have in a place.... suspension threat over 1 over?
ankitj
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Agree. That's definitely silly.
OverratedSanity
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But muh over-rates. Taking 5 more minutes to bowl your overs is what's killing the game.
cnerd123
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wait i swear you've bitched about modern day cricketers managing < 80 overs per day in Tests
morgieb
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Given the minimum is 90 overs a day, bowling less than 80 is pretty poor.
But yeah I've never really gotten the hang up over over rates. When people were bowling 110 overs a day the games sounded terrible to watch.
OverratedSanity
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Might have bitched about it years ago but I've always considered banning players for it complete horse**** and much more damaging to the game than a few overs being bowled slightly slower than required.
Over-rates are a red herring. It's something a lot of people point to as a big problem while the real issues get ignored. Apparently people think 7 overs of quick trash from a part timer to get a team to 90 overs a day would be better to watch than 80 high quality overs from the best available bowlers. It's so ****ing stupid.
The Hutt Rec
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Was anyone watching that game at the ground or at home bothered that it ran one over slow?!
Ridiculous that any player would ever be in danger of missing a knock-out World Cup match over such a non-issue.
We want to see the best vs the best in these matches.
Ridiculous that any player would ever be in danger of missing a knock-out World Cup match over such a non-issue.
We want to see the best vs the best in these matches.
cnerd123
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The ICC is harsh on everything. They kind of have to be. The second they show leniency to any one team or individual, they get ripped apart. It's why players cop demerit points for simply showing frustration on the field. It sucks but such is the reality of modern day cricket. No tolerance for any crime, especially if it can be clearly proven.
Over-rates aren't really ruining cricket, they're probably just harsh on it because of broadcasters, who have other programming to turn to and need the cricket to end in a timely manner. I don't think ground bookings are such an issue at the elite level, and clearly the fans don't care. Must just be one of those things they have to be hard on because of TV. If the punishment is lenient, games run slower overall, and broadcasters push back.
I wonder how other sports deal with stuff like this. Is this even a problem in any other sport (games running longer than schedule because players are going slow)?
Over-rates aren't really ruining cricket, they're probably just harsh on it because of broadcasters, who have other programming to turn to and need the cricket to end in a timely manner. I don't think ground bookings are such an issue at the elite level, and clearly the fans don't care. Must just be one of those things they have to be hard on because of TV. If the punishment is lenient, games run slower overall, and broadcasters push back.
I wonder how other sports deal with stuff like this. Is this even a problem in any other sport (games running longer than schedule because players are going slow)?
Bijed
International Regular
You're right, but at matches I've been to where they've fallen behind the over rate, it's been in large part due to fielding teams just kinda faffing around (+ Shannon Gabriel walking back to his mark!) which doesn't exactly constitute a high-quality spectating experience either
morgieb
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Other sports typically use timers, I think the only real parallels are tennis and baseball. Tennis has time violations if people are taking too long between points.
