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    A question of spin

    In the 4th Test against South Africa Tom Halsey took his first 10-wicket haul in Test cricket in his 9th Test. He now has 34 wickets in 9 Tests. The "number one" spinner in CWLand - Neil Pickup - took his first 10-wicket haul in the 3rd Test - his 54th. Pickup now has 217 wickets in 55 Tests.

    Pickup now averages 30.41 in Tests.
    Halsey averages 24.26.

    The question is how strong Pickup's claim is to the number one spinner's spot, given the impressive returns of Halsey on the international stage.
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    Don't see why they can't both play, to be honest.
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    Similar situation to Warne vs MacGill? In that when MacGill plays plays he almost always outperforms Warne, although Warne is the mainstay? Halsey has played just nine tests. He's a great guy and a great spinner but I think we'll see that average go up to around Pickup's mark if he was given a long run as lone spinner.
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    Halsey has played all of nine Tests. Give it time, and stop trying to make something of nothing.

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    Pickup's number one. IIRC, before this match, my average was almost exactly 30 (though I agree with DCYI, I don't see why we can't both play).
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    Quote Originally Posted by dontcloseyoureyes
    Don't see why they can't both play, to be honest.
    Well, you questioned his inclusion before today's match
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    I did, but only going on the nature of the pitch. Doesn't mean he's not good enough to play in front of Thomas, or Watt, or whoever isn't taking wickets. Your best players should always play.

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    I'm always a believer that wickets talk and if two spinners are taking wickets, while in the same team, there is no reason why they can't play together. But long term the performance of Mike Wilson might have major impact on how often they play together. The balance of a bowling attack, is as important as who are the form bowlers.
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    Halsey is a young gun, hes got abit of a way to go yet before he can lay claim to the number 1 spinner title. That said, i would like to see Pickup lift his game and take a huge haul next game.
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    The benefit of an opening batsman who can keep allows us to pick 5 bowlers provided some can bat well enough for to come in at 7 or 8.

    Halsey IMO can do the job at 8 as a second spinner, and probably is better equipped to 8 then any of the front line seamers (note I'm not classing Wilson as that, but more of an all rounder)
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    The benefit of an opening batsman who can keep allows us to pick 5 bowlers provided some can bat well enough for to come in at 7 or 8.

    Halsey IMO can do the job at 8 as a second spinner, and probably is better equipped to 8 then any of the front line seamers (note I'm not classing Wilson as that, but more of an all rounder)
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    Halsey can bat when needed. Blue have often gotten out of trouble from a decent Halsey innings.

    Would be awseome to play 4 bowlers if someone like Wilson is good enough to be the 5th bowler batting from 6 or 7 as a geniune allrounder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by age_master
    Halsey is a young gun, hes got abit of a way to go yet before he can lay claim to the number 1 spinner title. That said, i would like to see Pickup lift his game and take a huge haul next game.
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    Halsey is better to be Brutally Honest!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AussieDominance
    Halsey is better to be Brutally Honest!

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