The Subforum

[SirBloody Idiot]

Thanks a lot to James and the staff for allowing us to get this.

I'm just looking for ideas from you guys as to what kind of threads you want to see made in here.

Basically the plan is to make one thread for each week of tennis which will include signups, draw sheets and results. That makes it a lot easier for me to follow what is going on, and for you guys to schedule your appearances. Do we want one for anything else (ie fixtures, rankings, etc.)?

Also open to suggestions on what you want to see in terms of fixturing. HDS has kindly offered to help out this season and we haven't quite worked how to split things up, but I'm interested in what you guys want to see. Vimes, for instance, recommended that to cut down on fatigue players are allowed to choose two Masters Series tournaments to skip without penalty.

[David]

Great to see a Sub Forum, excellent work.

I think a fixtures thread would be great, as well as a rankings thread. Maybe a media thread if there is interest? Should be awesome.

[Johnners]

Definitely think theres should be 3 seperate threads for Fixtures, Rankings and Media.

[Samuel_Vimes]

Yay subforum!

Agreed with the others on the suggested threads. One thread per week sounds good also or they'll all be empty. Possibly even one per month for the quieter months.

[Goughy]

A thread explaining the concept would be good. Ive seen the other thread but I still dont know anything about this.

[HeathDavisSpeed]

I think you need to retain ownership of the rankings & calculations SBI. I think where I can assist is in simming and writing up the challenger tournaments. That should take some of the weight off your shoulders but still ensure that the rankings are properly co-ordinated.

[Simon]

Sub forum.

**** yeah!

[Samuel_Vimes]

A couple more suggestions:

1) A grass Masters series (Queen's?). Hate the stuff, but given tradition, the grass skills is not given enough weight and the season is too short.

2) Some other minor changes to the calendar. There's always some tournaments that go bankrupt etc. and it'll be nice to see some new countries. Suggestions: Budapest, Atlanta, Dallas, a different CWLand city, Perth, Tel Aviv, Oslo, Seoul.

3) Junior Davis Cup: offer to those who signed up either in the season or since July. In real life they only have one regional qualifier and a 16-team finals tournament. Can run this if you like.

[SirBloody Idiot]

We'll run with a media, rankings and fixtures thread at the top of the board. There's one announcement to be made in the media thread which I think is good for the game.

As to Masters Series, which would make way for a grass event? I'm hesitant to get rid of Monte Carlo and am leaning towards Madrid.

And I'll get the fixtures sorted first and then look at relocating some tournaments. Indianapolis is already gone for Atlanta, I think.

[NUFAN]

Could we possibly have a stats thread?

[Samuel_Vimes]

Originally Posted by SirBloody Idiot

As to Masters Series, which would make way for a grass event? I'm hesitant to get rid of Monte Carlo and am leaning towards Madrid.

Hey, I didn't say toss out a hard court. 2 clay courts to 6 hard courts + 1 grass?!

I'd toss out Shanghai or Cincinnati (this also nicely removes the problem of travelling CWLand -> US -> CWLand). If you want to toss out Madrid move it back to Hamburg where it belongs.

[SirBloody Idiot]

Originally Posted by NUFAN

Could we possibly have a stats thread?

Yep.

Originally Posted by Samuel_Vimes

Hey, I didn't say toss out a hard court. 2 clay courts to 6 hard courts + 1 grass?!

Indian Wells
Miami
Monte Carlo
Rome
Madrid
Grass event
Clowich
Shanghai
Paris

?

[Samuel_Vimes]

Originally Posted by SirBloody Idiot

Indian Wells
Miami
Monte Carlo
Rome
Madrid
Grass event
Clowich
Shanghai
Paris

?

That looks good to me...

[NUFAN]

Are there going to be any more non CW players? Can we all create some more?

[SirBloody Idiot]

Originally Posted by NUFAN

Are there going to be any more non CW players? Can we all create some more?

Leave a chance for others to sign up, and if there aren't too many then go ahead.

Originally Posted by Samuel_Vimes

I'd toss out Shanghai or Cincinnati (this also nicely removes the problem of travelling CWLand -> US -> CWLand). If you want to toss out Madrid move it back to Hamburg where it belongs.

OK, basically the grass schedule looks like this at the moment in July:

Jun 7 (Halle, Queen's)
Jun 14 (Den Bosch, Eastbourne)
Jun 21 (Wimbledon)
Jul 5 (Newport, Davis Cup QF)

If I want to make Halle or Queen's a Masters Series tournament, it needs to have a week to itself. That means Toronto gets turfed and downgraded to a 500 (and then Memphis to a 250) and is joined by another 250 on Aug 9.

The problem here is everything is landlocked as I can't have a Masters the week directly before or after a Grand Slam. That means either moving Roland Garros forward a week, or Wimbledon and the Davis Cup back a week - but that means so does the rest of the year.

I can now see why there's no grass MS tournament in real life .