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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewie View Post
    I think Chase's bowling is going to be pretty ****, he only averages like mid 20s in the West Indies, but his batting average domestically is 47 or something
    He's at least taken wickets at Tests though. Average is still fairly **** but he'll be at least serviceable as a 5th option.

    Obviously the appeal is his batting. Though his domestic average is only 41 (which is still good given how bowler-friendly West Indian pitches are), it's more just him dominating tour matches that makes up the gap.
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    Why give a toss about tour matches? They're rarely FC status and when they are it's against the board president's schoolboy XI or whatever
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    Why give a toss about tour matches? They're rarely FC status and when they are it's against the board president's schoolboy XI or whatever
    He's talking about the ones that affect his FC stats, so the non-FC ones aren't a factor.

    In Chase's case it's a game against Essex, a game against Derbyshire, a game against Australia and a game against the Pakistan President's Schoolboy XI. Ironically enough that last one was the only one he failed in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    He's talking about the ones that affect his FC stats, so the non-FC ones aren't a factor.

    In Chase's case it's a game against Essex, a game against Derbyshire, a game against Australia and a game against the Pakistan President's Schoolboy XI. Ironically enough that last one was the only one he failed in.
    Yeah it matters in this case because it makes his FC average look better than what it is if it was just West Indies + Barbados.


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    Quote Originally Posted by morgieb View Post
    Yeah it matters in this case because it makes his FC average look better than what it is if it was just West Indies + Barbados.
    Yeah those games count but with the exception of the game against Australia it'd be better for him if they were West Indian domestic cricket.

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    Essex attack conquered by Roston Chase

    20 year old Sam Cook before he was a regular
    20 year old Aaran Beard currently in second XI cricket
    Matt Dixon currently in second XI cricket
    Paul Walter who only played T20 this season
    Aron Nijjar, currently in 2nd XI cricket
    20 year old Callum Taylor who currently plays second XI cricket... sometimes

    With the exception of Palladino who is a player I've actually heard of the Derbyshire attack they played is even worse.

    I get all FC matches are worth something but it's crazy to say these matches are a step up from any competitive first team cricket

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    Essex attack conquered by Roston Chase

    20 year old Sam Cook before he was a regular
    20 year old Aaran Beard currently in second XI cricket
    Matt Dixon currently in second XI cricket
    Paul Walter who only played T20 this season
    Aron Nijjar, currently in 2nd XI cricket
    20 year old Callum Taylor who currently plays second XI cricket... sometimes

    With the exception of Palladino who is a player I've actually heard of the Derbyshire attack they played is even worse.

    I get all FC matches are worth something but it's crazy to say these matches are a step up from any competitive first team cricket
    No-one is saying that though.

    The whole point was that Chase's non-Test FC average doesn't just consist of runs in West Indian domestic cricket, but rather also some games against county Second XI attacks and such that make it less impressive.
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    Oh.

    Quote Originally Posted by morgieb View Post
    it's more just him dominating tour matches that makes up the gap.
    I misread this as 'makes up the gap from WI domestic cricket to tests' which I saw as crazy talk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    Oh.



    I misread this as 'makes up the gap from WI domestic cricket to tests' which I saw as crazy talk
    Ah, I get you. He was just saying it makes up the gap in his average. The game against the touring Australians was a decent standard even if not a particularly serious game but the rest would've been below WI domestic standard for sure, especially in terms of measuring batting given what the pitches are like for their domestic comp. The database will reflect this perfectly well, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    Oh.



    I misread this as 'makes up the gap from WI domestic cricket to tests' which I saw as crazy talk
    Yeah that's fair enough. But yeah the gap I was referring to was the difference between 41 (his Barbados average) and 47 (his non-Test average)

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    Finish the picks ffs Morgie

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    Round 13

    Best:

    3 - Chris Tremain. Has been the dominant Shield bowler for 3 seasons. Could and probably should've gone much earlier.
    2 - Colin Munro. Superb average and can throw down some solid mediums for good measure too. Very handy pick this late.
    1 - Rassie van der Dussen. Has been killing it recently, in a strong domestic competition.

    Worst:

    3 - Mohammad Asif. All his Tests is ancient history now and his FC form while fine isn't that good by Pakistani domestic standards.
    2 - Brendan Taylor. Was pretty meh at county level and other than his twin tons he hasn't been great at Test level since coming back either. Just a bit questionable sadly.
    1 - Mohammad Hafeez. Just has been batting with a stump recently. Not a round with many bad picks which given the round is a bit surprising.

    Round 14

    Best:

    3 - Pieter Malan. His 4-day average must be off the charts. Has been wonderful in the last two seasons and plays in a position where quality options are somewhat scarce.
    2 - Lockie Ferguson. Consistently one of the leading bowlers in NZ domestics, and should offer a good point of difference.
    1 - Travis Head. Best of the rest sort of pick - good recent FC form and his Test career thus far has been pretty solid.

    Worst:

    3 - Rachin Ravindra. Just has played **** all at this point. He'll be a gun but he simply hasn't played enough to be picked.
    2 - Sadeera Samarawickrama. I don't rate Sri Lankan domestics all that much and he doesn't average much there. Simply probably shouldn't have been picked.
    1 - Daniel Worrall. Good bowler but his recent record isn't that special. There was simply better.

    Round 15

    Best:

    3 - Chris Morris. Round 15? Seriously? When Kugglejuggle and Bracewell go like 10 rounds earlier? How did he last this far?
    2 - Todd Astle. Best NZ domestic spinner for a number of years and will be a handy #8 at least in this.
    1 - Pathum Nissanka. Hard to argue with an average over 60 this late off a decent amount of matches.

    Worst:

    3 - Nick Larkin. Basically had done nothing at FC level throughout his career before his recent two tons. Even now his average is still crap.
    2 - Tatenda Taibu. Only just made a comeback after six years of retirement and hardly has lit up trees in his comeback.
    1 - Rahkeem Cornwall. Given how easy it is to bowl spin in the West Indies, his averages scream no-rounder in something like this. At least he's done well for the A-team.

    Round 16

    Best:

    3 - Dane Cleaver. Recent performances have been excellent and can keep to boot.
    2 - Pite van Biljon. Like Malan/van der Dussen, has been excellent in a strong domestic competition recently.
    1 - Mir Hamza. His averages are just killer.

    Worst:

    3 - Nick Bertus. Has zero FC experience. Futures League form will only take him so far.
    2 - Rashid Khan. Has basically zero FC experience. In CPLOD would probably go first round, but it's just too difficult to rate him as things stand with the red ball.
    1 - Sachin Tendulkar. Has not played professionally since his last Test and that was over 5 years ago. And his last two years at Test level wasn't good.
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    Janneman Malan averaged 100 in 3-day cricket.

    Also Munro is retired from FC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    Janneman Malan averaged 100 in 3-day cricket.

    Also Munro is retired from FC.
    55.51 ITBT. Which is still gun, but 7 4-day matches isn't enough for me to rate someone.

    I knew about the Munro thing. He had been killing it before he became a white ball specialist though which should help.

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