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    Dart board cricket game

    For anyone that is interested I have just released a new game, check it out. It's lots of fun and a completely new way to get your "cricket fix"

    http://www.dartsmartcricket.com

    https://www.facebook.com/Dart-Smart-1017535911590189/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dart Smart View Post
    For anyone that is interested I have just released a new game, check it out. It's lots of fun and a completely new way to get your "cricket fix"

    Dart Smart Cricket ?

    https://www.facebook.com/Dart-Smart-1017535911590189/
    Interesting concept!However at $75, I can only wait for the price to reduce!

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    I am curious, do you think it is overpriced or are you just unable to afford it at the moment. The game is actually very reasonably priced when compared to standard dart boards of equal quality

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    How can you create a level playing field?

    Surely Phil Taylor is going to beat Andrew Flintoff every time?


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    Yes obviously in every game/sport there are some players who stand out. A world class player like Phil Taylor will obviously be better then most but even he doesn't hit what he is aiming at every time. The game design evens out the playing field as much as possible but there will always be some players better then others, that is what sport is all about and why we all strive to be better. Personally if I was playing against Phil Taylor I would make him stand 3 feet further away from the board :-). If I am playing chess against Garry Kasparov I would lose every time but I don't give up playing chess, I just play more and try harder to beat him. During the testing of this game I had several people of varying (dart throwing) skills play it and the games were very competitive, heated at times but always a lot of fun.

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    I'm guessing dart boards are ridiculously expensive over there, because that's double what you'd pay for a decent board here for the house, and possibly more expensive than an actual competition board. For such a niche game (the overlap between darts and cricket fans is not a huge one, especially playing at home - if you want to play cricket you pick up a bat and ball, not a dart...) it seems very expensive.
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    When I was a kid I would have definitely wanted this to put up in the rumpus room. How are the darts designed. it were me I would be putting the flags up of all the cricket countries, make sure you include Afghanistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    When I was a kid I would have definitely wanted this to put up in the rumpus room. How are the darts designed. it were me I would be putting the flags up of all the cricket countries, make sure you include Afghanistan.
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    Don't get me wrong, it's an interesting concept and something I'd consider having as a board to swap with the normal board. However the price is just too high. I'd be looking to change it to a much thinner, cheaper board - look at those cheap family boards that have a standard board on one side and an archery style one on the other - they can be picked up for 10-15 an offer both the intriguing game here and normal darts in one pack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpr View Post
    Don't get me wrong, it's an interesting concept and something I'd consider having as a board to swap with the normal board. However the price is just too high. I'd be looking to change it to a much thinner, cheaper board - look at those cheap family boards that have a standard board on one side and an archery style one on the other - they can be picked up for 10-15 an offer both the intriguing game here and normal darts in one pack.
    Yes I understand what you are saying, we did start off with a cheaper board but quite frankly it didn't look any where near as good and would have been lucky to last for 6 months. I didn't really want to sell a product that was of poor quality and didn't last. This board is 46cm in diameter and 4cm think made out of high quality sisal which will last for years rather then months. I think it equates to around 37 pound. If you feel this is too expensive, what price do you think is closer to the mark?

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    Well checking the prices and your board does seem cheap for Australian prices I suppose, so that's fair enough. I did have it in my head it was $90 not $75....However over here a specialist board of this ilk [url=http://www.dartscorner.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=342_1084&products_id=4603 (much like this one)[/url] are about $65, so internationally you're probably overpricing it a little.
    I'd still consider the cheaper board option, as I can probably see it being used in conjunction with a normal board, and probably not nearly as often, so having it light enough to change easily is a bonus. Also the lack of play time as it'll only be a secondary board will increase its lifespan. Also I dare say it'll appeal predominantly to younger players, thus the throws into the board wont be as hard.

    The actual idea of the game is pretty impressive, and looks to work, however I just don't see it having enough appeal to grab people at that price. Have you tried considering a cheaper board and offering a 'deluxe' version with a better board/some extra bits for those who'd want to get more use out of it. Could feasibly expand your market whilst still offering quality to those who want it.

    How much are you charging shipping internationally too? Could make a big difference if the products being created in Australia... I'd be tempted to consider an British manufacturer if they can do the board a fair bit cheaper.

    Finally you need to get the site ranking higher in google. Typing in cricket, darts and possibly board don't bring the page back in the early searches - alas Cricket is a popular variation of a different darts game so instructions on the rules for that figure highly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredfertang View Post
    How can you create a level playing field?

    Surely Phil Taylor is going to beat Andrew Flintoff every time?
    Taylor must he spun around 4 times clockwise and then 3 times counter clockwise before throwing his dart between his legs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    Taylor must he spun around 4 times clockwise and then 3 times counter clockwise before throwing his dart between his legs.
    Well he would probably still beat me :-) The fact is that in all sports and all games some players will be much better then others, in golf they have a handicap system to level the field out. Cutting Phil's thumb off at the first knuckle should be enough of a handicap I would think :-) Don't know about you but none of my mates are in phil Taylors class and we have played this game over a BBQ and a few drinks and had a blast so I don't think its going to be a major problem for most people.

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    Hi CPR, thanks for your comments, I checked out the link and see that this golf game is 32.70 pound including VAT, my game sits around 37.50 at the current conversion rate so I think it's pretty comparable and to be honest I think its worth the extra 5 pound. I am not sure how this golf game is played but I doubt that in accurately reflects the sport itself. I think cricket is probably the only game that lends itself to a dart board based interpretation and I believe mine gets as close as possible to replicating the scoring system and game play. As you mentioned there is a cricket game that is played on a regular board and it is very popular. So if you are going to play cricket on a dart board why not play a game that you can actually score 4's and 6's, get bowled or caught etc?

    Obviously the shipping charges from Australia to the UK are prohibitive so the intention at this time was to just see what interest it got in Australia and take it from there. In fact it wasn't till after I started this thread that I realised this forum is not Australian based, had I done so i wouldn't have posted at this time. We have design registration approved and patents pending in the UK so it is definitely a market that we are interested in exploring with both cricket and darts being very popular over there. As you rightly point out, we would definitely have games shipped from within the UK if it goes to that point.

    With regard to the cheaper quality boards, the initial prototype was one of these and to be honest after 3 or 4 games it was basically unusable. In fact if I was to buy one of them and this happened not only would I not buy a replacement I would not recommend it either.

    So basically, I had an idea, drew up a design, got a small quantity made and now I am just testing the water to see if there is any interest. Nothing ventured nothing gained. I also believe its a great game and people will have a lot of fun with it, Not only the younger generation either, I have had mates around to play and I can tell you it was like we'd stepped onto the SCG for a test match :-) very competitive and plenty of sledging :-)

    In testing the game and playing with friends a 20 over a side games average score is around 6 for 160 which is fairly accurate to a real 20/20 match. As NUFAN pointed out this may not be the case if Phil Taylor was playing but there are ways to handicap top class dart players (that don't involve removing thumbs) and as I have said, I don't think this is a problem for the vast majority of people who would buy this game.

    Anyway, it's out there and we'll see how it goes. I think you would enjoy it.



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