What happened to Graeme Hick?

Anoop · 24-07-2002, 08:31 PM

He scored 100 FC hundreds, didn't he?. Why was he knocked out of the England squad?

Sure, he must be underperforming.. but 100 centuries.. way too cool!! I can't understand why he has only an avg of 33 in Test cricket :O

Top_Cat · 24-07-2002, 08:46 PM

The problem with Graeme Hick was that he was picked far too late. With this stupid 5-year rule England had (still have it??), He played his first Test something like 3 years after he was just about to hit his prime. Then by the time he was finally allowed to play, the expectations were so great that the West Indian attack of the time took him apart. They exploited his weakness against the short ball (something which may have been rectified with a few years of hard Test cricket under his belt) and that was that.

He is certainly an awesome player and technically is NOW very good but his weakness against spin bowlers (tries too much to play them off the back-foot) and geniune pace bowling counted against him.

Anoop · 24-07-2002, 08:48 PM

5 year rule??

its a pity that he didn't play many games!

Top_Cat · 24-07-2002, 08:50 PM

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5 year rule??

Graeme ick isn't English but Zimbabwean. He was actually in their squad for the 1987 WC. When he came to play in England, he had to play Country cricket for 5 years to qualify to play for England. He scored 405* in 1988 but it was another 3 years before he could play for England. I'd find that pretty damn frustrating.

Anoop · 24-07-2002, 08:53 PM

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I'd find that pretty damn frustrating.

same here!

wondering how frustrated Hick would have been!

scorpio · 24-07-2002, 08:56 PM

Hick is not test class. Not atleast topnotch.
Sure when the bowling was less than world class he was a giant.

But when put under the microscope he was found wanting.

His 100 centuries say a lot abt the quality of english county cricket...( or the lack of it..)

Anoop · 24-07-2002, 09:02 PM

you need to have *some* special skills to hit 100 centuries..!!

scorpio · 24-07-2002, 09:05 PM

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you need to have *some* special skills to hit 100 centuries..!!

may be he did..
but it didnt take a special bowler to crack him..lol ...big merv hughes did it.

Hick is a okat batsman but his record is just flattered by rubbish county bowling. Hick sucked big time against pace ( ganguly is his closest rival interms of reputation and performance)

Top_Cat · 24-07-2002, 09:14 PM

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but it didnt take a special bowler to crack him..lol ...big merv hughes did it.

Now hang on one second. Merv at his peak was as good as any bowler in the world at most stages of his career. You don't take 13 wickets on the WACA against a West Indian side comprised of Greenidge, Haynes, Viv, Richardson, Logie and Hooper without being something very good.

And there were numerous other great performaces against other teams. He was very injury-prone no argument but to say he wasn't a VERY good bowler is selling him short.

scorpio · 24-07-2002, 09:15 PM

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but it didnt take a special bowler to crack him..lol ...big merv hughes did it.

Now hang on one second. Merv at his peak was as good as any bowler in the world at most stages of his career. You don't take 13 wickets on the WACA against a West Indian side comprised of Greenidge, Haynes, Viv, Richardson, Logie and Hooper without being something very good.

And there were numerous other great performaces against other teams. He was very injury-prone no argument but to say he wasn't a VERY good bowler is selling him short.

I didnt say he was crap. He was a quality fast bowler. But the way hick fell to him tells a lot abt hicks skills...

aussie_beater · 24-07-2002, 09:16 PM

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Graeme ick isn't English but Zimbabwean. He was actually in their squad for the 1987 WC.

Graeme Hick was not in the Zim team of 1987 world cup.He was included as an extra player at the age of 17 in the 1983 world cup which was Zimbabwe's first world cup.He defected to England in 1986.

Top_Cat · 24-07-2002, 09:19 PM

Whoops! Typo. I MEANT 1983.......damn keyboard.

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I didnt say he was crap. He was a quality fast bowler. But the way hick fell to him tells a lot abt hicks skills...

That's right. And everyone else, keep off Merv. I will not hear a negative word against the big man, with the big heart and the bigger gut!

Another 'big' legend: BOONIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Argonaut · 24-07-2002, 09:57 PM

I agree with Scorpio, Hick was a flat track bully who can't handle quality bowling. He is well suited to county cricket.

Neil Pickup · 25-07-2002, 10:53 AM

Argonaut: As what I was going to say..

Flat track bully, not test class. He's had countless chances and not taken them. If there hadn't been the five year rule, if, if, if...

dass · 06-02-2007, 11:50 PM

wow this thread is old, whatever happend to these members?

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24-07-2002, 08:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
Anoop U19 12th Man Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Trivandrum,India Posts: 260	5 year rule?? its a pity that he didn't play many games!

24-07-2002, 09:02 PM	#7 (permalink)
Anoop U19 12th Man Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Trivandrum,India Posts: 260	you need to have some special skills to hit 100 centuries..!!

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The Argonaut State Vice-Captain Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 1,351	I agree with Scorpio, Hick was a flat track bully who can't handle quality bowling. He is well suited to county cricket.

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dass Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: boratistan Posts: 240	wow this thread is old, whatever happend to these members?

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