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    Quote Originally Posted by Streetwise View Post
    So you would back North (strike rate 95) or even Marsh (average 17 S/R 110) to replace Clarke?
    Not confidently, but given their comparative records North and Marsh deserve just as much of a shot as Clarke.

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    Did you think about this before posting.
    No, I just listed the best players from memory then added in statistically the best from Cricinfo stats, and I think a few of them are better than Clarke (Hodge, Katich, Marsh, Voges) and the others could potentially be better.
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    Clarke is, by head and shoulders, the best batsman of his generation (Aussie). He is also a very, very good captain with a wonderful cricket brain. Yes at the moment his batting tempo needs to intensify in the shortest form of the game but the thing about great players is when they have a problem in a certain area they will find a way to rectify it, usually sooner rather than later. He would no doubt benefit from playing a full season in the Big Bash but I cant see that as likely to happen any time soon. The Australian selectors will keep him in the team as long as he keeps scoring some runs because the last thing you need is your captain having to be worried about his place in the team. Never underestimate the value of stability within a team. Besides while he keeps winning as skipper there is no reason to even consider dropping him. I would just like to see him bowl a lot more in T20 as he is a very useful bowler in this format. Trust me, we havent seen anything even close to his "A" game yet.
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    All recently used Michael Clarke threads have been merged and re-named, there's really no need for 3/4 threads about basically the same thing
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    Said it about Ganguly before now, but these days Michael Clarke has to be the player with most threads started about him in CW history. Maybe one day we might merge the lot of them.
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    His Test batting is seriously overrated, not so much that he should be dropped but his far from one of the better batsman in world cricket. The thing about Michael Clarke is that he has never done anything great. He was on the verge of doing something great in the 2nd Test of the Ashes, when he scored that 100, but he got out soon after. Had Australia won that match or had lost by 10-20 runs, with Clarke making 180-200 then he could've been well on his way to being a Ponting, Chappell, Border, Waugh or Hayden. BUT as it is, he only got half the job done and will most likely never be seriously comparable to past Australian greats.

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    Clearly overrated, as evidenced by the fact that he has his own discussion thread, full of people rating him highly and lowly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wfdu_ben91 View Post
    His Test batting is seriously overrated, not so much that he should be dropped but his far from one of the better batsman in world cricket. The thing about Michael Clarke is that he has never done anything great. He was on the verge of doing something great in the 2nd Test of the Ashes, when he scored that 100, but he got out soon after. Had Australia won that match or had lost by 10-20 runs, with Clarke making 180-200 then he could've been well on his way to being a Ponting, Chappell, Border, Waugh or Hayden. BUT as it is, he only got half the job done and will most likely never be seriously comparable to past Australian greats.
    Name one other Australian player under 30 who has 13 test centuries 17 50s and an average better than 50.

    edit. PS at the same stage in his career Ponting had 9 centuries.
    Last edited by dikinee; 06-02-2010 at 10:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dikinee View Post
    Name one other Australian player under 30 who has 13 test centuries 17 50s and an average better than 50.

    edit. PS at the same stage in his career Ponting had 9 centuries.
    Yeah, picking up the leftovers after Hayden, Langer, Ponting, Hussey have all made runs - all of whom, are better batsmen then Clarke.

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    TO suggest Clarke is not suitable for tests is incredibly naive. He has his own deficiencies, perhaps he'd never make a "great" but he surely is indispensable today. However in ODIs and T20s I reserve my judgement.

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    What are Clarke's Test deficiencies? He can play spin very well, has developed a very good technique against the moving ball and has little trouble against pace in general and the shorter ball. His defence is rock solid and pretty much his only issues is his constant getting out in the last over of the day (doesn't do it anymore) and the ability to get him out by bowling a meter outside off stump for two hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Alex View Post
    TO suggest Clarke is not suitable for tests is incredibly naive. He has his own deficiencies, perhaps he'd never make a "great" but he surely is indispensable today. However in ODIs and T20s I reserve my judgement.
    I was never suggesting dropping him, but merely suggesting that he isn't one of the best Test batsman in the world. His not even in the top 10. I reckon Shane Watson's a better shout at being an alltime Australian great batsman then what Clarke is, given that Watson can stay injury free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pasag View Post
    What are Clarke's Test deficiencies? He can play spin very well, has developed a very good technique against the moving ball and has little trouble against pace in general and the shorter ball. His defence is rock solid and pretty much his only issues is his constant getting out in the last over of the day (doesn't do it anymore) and the ability to get him out by bowling a meter outside off stump for two hours.
    He obviously must have his own problems or he wouldn't be averaging less than 50 innit? He has problems like the waft outside off stump (which is a common one), slight issues with his temperament, (after blocking scores, suddenly jumps out premediated at a delivery resulting in his own innings demise), suspect against class swing bowling... none of these are glaring and are more or less common across all batsmen, but the sum of such deficiencies add up in his case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfdu_ben91 View Post
    I was never suggesting dropping him, but merely suggesting that he isn't one of the best Test batsman in the world. His not even in the top 10. I reckon Shane Watson's a better shout at being an alltime Australian great batsman then what Clarke is, given that Watson can stay injury free.
    That Watson would end up with a better record than Clarke is possible provided he plays most of his cricket against substandard bowling lineups. However that is not the truth. Watson is going to be found out against quality seam/swing bowling, temperamental issues and his inability to play decent spin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Alex View Post
    He obviously must have his own problems or he wouldn't be averaging less than 50 innit?
    Probably why he doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Alex View Post
    That Watson would end up with a better record than Clarke is possible provided he plays most of his cricket against substandard bowling lineups. However that is not the truth. Watson is going to be found out against quality seam/swing bowling, temperamental issues and his inability to play decent spin.
    I doubt he'll come across many bowlers better or as good as Mohammad Asif and he did a hell of allot better against Asif then what Clarke did.

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