Michael Clarke Discussion thread - Page 3

Son Of Coco · 19-09-2004, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by luckyeddie

Sounds eminently sensible to me (at least for a try) - he's not exactly had a fair crack of the whip in the big game

His last tour of the subcontinent wasn't exactly productive in Test cricket, unfortunately you don't get too many chances in the Oz team at the moment.

luckyeddie · 19-09-2004, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Son Of Coco

His last tour of the subcontinent wasn't exactly productive in Test cricket, unfortunately you don't get too many chances in the Oz team at the moment.

He's not the first to be undone by Murali's eyes

Richard · 19-09-2004, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by marc71178

World Class?

Don't think so.

I do, in ODIs, and so would anyone with any sense.

Richard · 19-09-2004, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by marc71178

He wasn't bowling properly then.

It's only in the last 2 years or so he's been bowling properly.

The last 3, actually.

Richard · 19-09-2004, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jnr.

To me, Watson seems like he would be a better Test player than he would be an ODI player (ie I think he is better suited to the longer form of the game).

I've thought that ever since I've examined his situation.

Richard · 19-09-2004, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sledger

talented batsman and the future of australian cricket or overated?

Both.
There are many commentators (especially here in England) who seem to be under the impression he is far better than IMO he currently is.
But equally there is no doubting he has a lot of potential and could be a big part of the future of Australian cricket.

SJS · 20-09-2004, 08:57 AM

Clarke has both high potential and real class.

He looks as if he belongs and thats something for one so young and more so in a side as strong as Australia.

Deja moo · 21-09-2004, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SJS

Clarke has both high potential and real class.

He looks as if he belongs and thats something for one so young and more so in a side as strong as Australia.

second that

Nnanden · 21-09-2004, 01:20 AM

i think watties should get a go in tests... in saying that, i can imagine michael under a baggy green quite well. both future test players i reckon.

Richard · 21-09-2004, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SJS

Clarke has both high potential and real class.

He looks as if he belongs and thats something for one so young and more so in a side as strong as Australia.

Clarke is 23 with 4 seasons under his belt - he's not that young.
He's also not been at all convincing in his ODI career to date - he had a fantastic start (average of 208 after 4 innings).
Since then he's averaged 29.13 when you remove Zimbabwe games (perfectly legitimate, given that Zimbabwe have not been ODI standard from WC2003 onwards).
Still to convince as far as I'm concerned.

age_master · 21-09-2004, 08:57 PM

23 is very young in terms of Aussie cricketers

and his ODI career stats dont tell the whole story... hes more often than not batting at 6 or 7, slogging in the later overs, not worrying about his average (like some others) and having a swing.

marc71178 · 22-09-2004, 01:09 AM

Yes, and incidentally, by batting so low down, he gets a lot of not outs...

Mr. P · 22-09-2004, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard

Since then he's averaged 29.13 when you remove Zimbabwe games (perfectly legitimate, given that Zimbabwe have not been ODI standard from WC2003 onwards).
Still to convince as far as I'm concerned.

C'mon mate. Really, I expect better from you. We can cover this from every angle, but you cannot leave those games out.

Son Of Coco · 22-09-2004, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard

Clarke is 23 with 4 seasons under his belt - he's not that young.
He's also not been at all convincing in his ODI career to date - he had a fantastic start (average of 208 after 4 innings).
Since then he's averaged 29.13 when you remove Zimbabwe games (perfectly legitimate, given that Zimbabwe have not been ODI standard from WC2003 onwards).
Still to convince as far as I'm concerned.

he seems to be going along ok to date.................another solid performance yesterday. Interestingly he and Symonds are the top performers currently when it comes to building a partnership in the middle of the innings - they average 65, which goes some way to explaining the Aussies recent successes I guess (up until yesterday! haha).

Son Of Coco · 22-09-2004, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by marc71178

Yes, and incidentally, by batting so low down, he gets a lot of not outs...

So did Bevan, they're often 30-40 not outs though, which make a significant contribution to the team.

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