View Poll Results: In which format(s), if any, should Michael Clarke be playing for Australia?

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  • Tests, ODIs and 20/20

    5 8.33%
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    38 63.33%
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    14 23.33%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uppercut View Post

    However, i do think you're exaggerating how lost this cause is for Australia. I'm not going to go into depth, because i don't see it happening, but the bookies currently have the draw at 7/1. The odds of you swimming the channel are considerably longer, i dare say.
    You must be getting ripped off! From what I've seen odds are 9-1 now with India at $1.07
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    Quote Originally Posted by Got_Spin View Post
    You must be getting ripped off! From what I've seen odds are 9-1 now with India at $1.07
    Down to 13/2 now actually, with and India win 1/14 (bet365). Not that i'll be having a dip at either of those

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    TBH, if you wanted the best impression possible of which innings were "easy" and which ones were "hard" the best method would be one that depended not on a set value (ie, arbitrary scorelines) but simply on an examination of the innings, what immediately preceded the innings and what immediately succeeded it.

    Wouldn't be any more difficult to do than an arbitrary-scoreline set of figures, and while it'd be subjective rather than objective I actually think you'd probably get less disagreement.
    Would have to watch every innings in order to achieve this. Don't really know how what immediately succeeded the innings would have anything to do with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    The point is that both would require something near-unthinkable in order to happen.

    (Unless, that is, rain is forecast - I'm kinda presuming it's not)
    How does rain help you swim the Channel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    He was referring to the stats he did on it before which were based on the score when the player came in. Several problems with that method, of course, least not the ability of wickets to fall in clumps shortly after a player arrives at the crease, but they were interesting all the same.
    Yeah I was aware of this issue as collapses would put even more pressure on the batter. Very hard to judge this though by just looking up scorecards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt79 View Post
    How does rain help you swim the Channel?
    Means overwater is the same as underwater, obv.

    Seriously - I was meaning I'd need some sort of miracle to swim the channel tomorrow; likewise it'll take some sort of miracle (and rain seems extremely unlikely) to save Australia on day-five.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    Would have to watch every innings in order to achieve this.
    Nah, just look at the 'cards.
    Don't really know how what immediately succeeded the innings would have anything to do with it?
    Well, y'know... the score as he came in and how many quick wickets had fallen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Nah, just look at the 'cards.

    Well, y'know... the score as he came in and how many quick wickets had fallen?
    Oh okay so you just wrote what Prince had written.

    I read 'succeeded' as after, all good.

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    Watching the 4th day replay, there was a ripper from Mishy that beat Clarke and the stumps by a micron. And the commentators were talking how his back leg is not being in line with the ball or acting as a second line of defence to deliveries that pitch outside the leg stump and turning in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pnottath View Post
    Watching the 4th day replay, there was a ripper from Mishy that beat Clarke and the stumps by a micron. And the commentators were talking how his back leg is not being in line with the ball or acting as a second line of defence to deliveries that pitch outside the leg stump and turning in.
    Yup. Has been the very reason he's always struggled against balls moving away from him, pace or spin.
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    Michael Clarke is mentally weak..

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    Oh okay so you just wrote what Prince had written.

    I read 'succeeded' as after, all good.
    Ah no, hang on, I meant what had happened just after.

    An innings which starts at 200-2 but sees that rapidly become 220-6 is clearly one of pretty well every bit as much value as one that starts at 30-2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Ah no, hang on, I meant what had happened just after.

    An innings which starts at 200-2 but sees that rapidly become 220-6 is clearly one of pretty well every bit as much value as one that starts at 30-2.
    Yeah again I understand mate. You wrote exactly what Prince wrote in the post above your original comment.

    Good on Clarke getting 69, but I thought it was dire that he couldn't at least get a not out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Ah no, hang on, I meant what had happened just after.

    An innings which starts at 200-2 but sees that rapidly become 220-6 is clearly one of pretty well every bit as much value as one that starts at 30-2.
    Yeah, I said that earlier:

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