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    Who is the best international captain?

    This idea came to me when thinking about Stephen Fleming. Everyone speaks so highly of him as a captain, but when New Zealand came to England, I was unimpressed.

    I think Michael Vaughan has done very well since becoming England captain, I also think Ricky Ponting is a fair captain, but his team captains itself. I think Sourav Ganguly is possibly the best though.

    What do you think?

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    Fleming was somewhat hampered by an injured attack.

    Still number 1 for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steds
    This idea came to me when thinking about Stephen Fleming. Everyone speaks so highly of him as a captain, but when New Zealand came to England, I was unimpressed.

    I think Michael Vaughan has done very well since becoming England captain, I also think Ricky Ponting is a fair captain, but his team captains itself. I think Sourav Ganguly is possibly the best though.

    What do you think?
    Fleming captained a side who was really struggling with injuries.Yes they lost 3-0 but anyone with half a brain could see that the series was tightly fought, so i think that is a bit unfair on fleming.

    Ganguly most certainly is not the best captain, the level of his ineptitude sometimes astounds me...cant field up to international standard,poor body language when things are going wrong etc.

    I think Vaughan is developing..some of his field placings are inventive, and he does appear to want to make things happen.

    I have no problems what so ever with Ponting as a captain...think about what he has dealt with..his two premier bowlers being missing for a long time,a tricky tour of Sri Lanka (tough in anyones books) etc.

    I feel sorry for Lara as a captain.

    I do think Smith has the potential to be a great captain for SA.

    I dont even know who Pakistans captain is these days???? Inzy????Yes it is isnt it.Not really watched him to see how he is doing.

    Fleming is the best for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swervy
    Fleming captained a side who was really struggling with injuries.Yes they lost 3-0 but anyone with half a brain could see that the series was tightly fought, so i think that is a bit unfair on fleming.
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    Fleming: i think he's the best captain and he can rally his troops better than anyone.
    Ganguly: his good points out weigh the bad points, he's had great success as captain and instilled a good bit of confidence in the indian side...but they cant win finals
    Ponting: captains a side of champs well, doesnt have to do much as a captain but when the occassion calls for it he leads from the front.
    Attapattu: id say attapattu is an excellent captain, he motivates his troops and there is a fair mix of veterans and new blood in the SL camp.
    Inzamam: mediocre captain
    Lara: great batsmen no doubt not so great captain with an undisiplined WI side.
    Vaughn: good captain, innovates and can motivate and has a talented side to compliment him nicely.
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    should be micheal vaughn. if u look at the England side they are a pretty young side...but
    now still they are a world class side... the captain has a big influence to the english sides victories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steds
    That puts me in my place, then
    hahahaha..i didnt mean to make out that you didnt have half a brain

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    Stephen Fleming is no 1 because he carries a Team of average performers (Shane Bond excluded) and manages to get the best out of them even when lot of his key performers are out with injuries. He leads from the front by scoring and performing (in difficult no 1 or No 3 position ) well for his Team in difficult situations. This is why he is the best Captain.

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    whats do u guys think about Atapattus captaincy ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nookie_lk
    whats do u guys think about Atapattus captaincy ?
    I've not really seen enough of it to judge

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    The team that has improved most is India, and in no small part this is due to Ganguly's captaincy. Fleming is overrated.

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    why do u say flemings overrated?!

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    Coz New Zealand are no better than before he became captain. Why is everyone obsessed with him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedved's Fan
    Coz New Zealand are no better than before he became captain. Why is everyone obsessed with him?
    Someone who agrees with me, finally!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedved's Fan
    The team that has improved most is India, and in no small part this is due to Ganguly's captaincy. Fleming is overrated.
    tell me why you beleive India are the most improved team!!!!! They have been hovering mid table for ages, the results are really coming through despite the talent...if anything India are probably the biggest underacheivers given their talent levels in world cricket at the moment.

    how anyone can say Ganguly is a good captain is beyond me I am afraid


    And no Fleming isnt overrated, his team is performing almost on a level with India in tests and certainly superior to them in ODI and yet NZ dont have the talented players that India do

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