*Official* 1st Test - England v India - Keep all Discussion Here Please!

Rich2001 · 17-07-2002, 06:41 AM

Well it's been annouced that now both A.Caddick (side strain) and M.Trescothick (fratured/broken thumb) will be out of the 1st Test vs India

Who would you bring in to replace M.Trescothick? or who would you promote to opening the batting and then who would you bring in lower down the order?

[Edited on 7/25/02 by Neil Pickup]

luckyeddie · 17-07-2002, 07:39 AM

How fortunate for the selectors. It gives them the opportunity to promote any one from about three (Butcher, Knight, Stewart even). Goodness me. Who shall we bring in to the middle order?
Ah yes, Mark Ramprakash. Well, that's the batting sorted out. Anyone for a Pimms?

As far as Caddick is concerned that's tricky. Assuming that Gough is in, I suppose Hoggard opens with him. Tudor's in too. Flintoff as well. No Jones, no Corky.

Rich2001 · 17-07-2002, 07:49 AM

N.Knight, will not play his only in the selectors minds for the one dayers.

However you could be right about M.Butcher opening, Stewart will stay at 6 or 7 and I feel that Ramps has been in great form of late however I believe that the selectors will bow to public demand and bring in the talented youth of I.Bell or possibly R.Key.

Bolwing wont be much of a problem as Caddick has been out for a while now and they seems to be happy with what they have, however with Gough back in the picture one of them is likely to miss out (unless they weaken the batting)

luckyeddie · 17-07-2002, 08:19 AM

You're right.

I just sat down and thought 'what a prat - why did you say Knight?'

Ian Bell - the only thing on his side is his youth. At the moment, I don't think he's good enough - yet.

Robert Key - that's worth a try IMHO.

Botham's just put his hat in the Ian Bell ring. Also advocating the inclusion of Simon Jones.

greatindia · 17-07-2002, 11:39 PM

GREAT CHANCE FOR INDIA, WITHOUT CADDICK AND TRES ENG TEAM WILL BE WEAKENED, HOPE INDIA GETS OFF TO A FLYING START.KAPIL DEV HAVE ALREADY TIPPED INDIA AS THE FAV'S FOR THE SERIES

luckyeddie · 18-07-2002, 12:35 AM

Trescothick leaves a great, gaping hole at the top of the order. He's the best natural opener we have seen in England for a number of years.
Jug-ears won't be missed as much, because seam-up is England's strength. Of course, no guesses as to who I think ought to be in, but then again I'd like to see Jones get a try out, boyo. Now he has a bit of pace.

Sssshhhhh, GI. Don't shout. I'va a hangover.

Kiwi · 18-07-2002, 12:45 AM

Trescothick is a world class player and he will leave a huge gap. I would like to see Ian Bell in but I don't think that will happen.

Rich2001 · 18-07-2002, 02:52 AM

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Jug-ears won't be missed as much, because seam-up is England's strength. Of course, no guesses as to who I think ought to be in, but then again I'd like to see Jones get a try out, boyo. Now he has a bit of pace.

Your right there, we do have alot of seamers around at the moment and that can only help with the fisrt game at Lord's, which over the years has been a seamers dream. Which will also will help to reduce the risk of India's spin duo hopefully.

luckyeddie · 18-07-2002, 04:08 AM

Oh yes, I forgot the first test was at Lords.
Corky's in then.
Ten wickets in the match, dropped by the end of the series (or even for the second test), no tour to Australia, recalled for the World Cup, doesn't play.

Seriously, the talk at the moment on the radio is about the 'imminent recall of John Crawley'. Corky's being highlighted because Tudor's not fit either.

lord_of_darkness · 18-07-2002, 04:12 AM

yes Tres is a really good player and caddick is pretty good at tests , yes im sure this is an oppurtunity for the young cricketers to get a shot at test level ?

and this test will surely be an interesting one to follow

Rich2001 · 18-07-2002, 04:20 AM

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Oh yes, I forgot the first test was at Lords.
Corky's in then.
Ten wickets in the match, dropped by the end of the series (or even for the second test), no tour to Australia, recalled for the World Cup, doesn't play.

LOL and that probley would happen as well England like to drop/swap players around on one poor performance

lord_of_darkness · 18-07-2002, 04:21 AM

hmm i think they might give Ronnie Irani a go!

Rich2001 · 18-07-2002, 04:39 AM

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hmm i think they might give Ronnie Irani a go!

I think his more a one day player as well, but you never know in cricket

lord_of_darkness · 18-07-2002, 05:23 AM

yea he is a one day player agreed

but the way he bowls u knw quite looks like test styles , yea its cricket things get suprising

luckyeddie · 18-07-2002, 07:30 AM

Stranger things have happened.

For instance, what have the following batsmen in common :

Eddie Barlow
Mike Macaulay
Graeme Pollock
Colin Bland
Sydney Burke
Peter Burge
Tom Veivers

Answer :
All were dismissed by Geoff Boycott in test cricket.

Now, Ronnie Irani is a much better bowler than Geoff (allegedly), so it just goes to show that anyone can be effective on his day.

17-07-2002, 06:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
Rich2001 Cricket Web Vice Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 7,181	Official 1st Test - England v India - Keep all Discussion Here Please! Well it's been annouced that now both A.Caddick (side strain) and M.Trescothick (fratured/broken thumb) will be out of the 1st Test vs India Who would you bring in to replace M.Trescothick? or who would you promote to opening the batting and then who would you bring in lower down the order? [Edited on 7/25/02 by Neil Pickup]

17-07-2002, 07:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
luckyeddie Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Derby, England Posts: 17,629	How fortunate for the selectors. It gives them the opportunity to promote any one from about three (Butcher, Knight, Stewart even). Goodness me. Who shall we bring in to the middle order? Ah yes, Mark Ramprakash. Well, that's the batting sorted out. Anyone for a Pimms? As far as Caddick is concerned that's tricky. Assuming that Gough is in, I suppose Hoggard opens with him. Tudor's in too. Flintoff as well. No Jones, no Corky. __________________ Nigel Clough's Black and White Army, beating Forest away with 10 men

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17-07-2002, 07:49 AM	#3 (permalink)
Rich2001 Cricket Web Vice Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 7,181	N.Knight, will not play his only in the selectors minds for the one dayers. However you could be right about M.Butcher opening, Stewart will stay at 6 or 7 and I feel that Ramps has been in great form of late however I believe that the selectors will bow to public demand and bring in the talented youth of I.Bell or possibly R.Key. Bolwing wont be much of a problem as Caddick has been out for a while now and they seems to be happy with what they have, however with Gough back in the picture one of them is likely to miss out (unless they weaken the batting)

17-07-2002, 08:19 AM	#4 (permalink)
luckyeddie Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Derby, England Posts: 17,629	You're right. I just sat down and thought 'what a prat - why did you say Knight?' Ian Bell - the only thing on his side is his youth. At the moment, I don't think he's good enough - yet. Robert Key - that's worth a try IMHO. Botham's just put his hat in the Ian Bell ring. Also advocating the inclusion of Simon Jones.

17-07-2002, 11:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
greatindia Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 55	GREAT CHANCE FOR INDIA, WITHOUT CADDICK AND TRES ENG TEAM WILL BE WEAKENED, HOPE INDIA GETS OFF TO A FLYING START.KAPIL DEV HAVE ALREADY TIPPED INDIA AS THE FAV'S FOR THE SERIES

18-07-2002, 12:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
luckyeddie Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Derby, England Posts: 17,629	Trescothick leaves a great, gaping hole at the top of the order. He's the best natural opener we have seen in England for a number of years. Jug-ears won't be missed as much, because seam-up is England's strength. Of course, no guesses as to who I think ought to be in, but then again I'd like to see Jones get a try out, boyo. Now he has a bit of pace. Sssshhhhh, GI. Don't shout. I'va a hangover.

18-07-2002, 12:45 AM	#7 (permalink)
Kiwi State Vice-Captain Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,079	Trescothick is a world class player and he will leave a huge gap. I would like to see Ian Bell in but I don't think that will happen.

18-07-2002, 04:08 AM	#9 (permalink)
luckyeddie Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Derby, England Posts: 17,629	Oh yes, I forgot the first test was at Lords. Corky's in then. Ten wickets in the match, dropped by the end of the series (or even for the second test), no tour to Australia, recalled for the World Cup, doesn't play. Seriously, the talk at the moment on the radio is about the 'imminent recall of John Crawley'. Corky's being highlighted because Tudor's not fit either.

18-07-2002, 04:21 AM	#12 (permalink)
lord_of_darkness Cricket Web XI Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland , New Zealand Posts: 13,252	hmm i think they might give Ronnie Irani a go!

18-07-2002, 05:23 AM	#14 (permalink)
lord_of_darkness Cricket Web XI Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland , New Zealand Posts: 13,252	yea he is a one day player agreed but the way he bowls u knw quite looks like test styles , yea its cricket things get suprising

18-07-2002, 07:30 AM	#15 (permalink)
luckyeddie Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Derby, England Posts: 17,629	Stranger things have happened. For instance, what have the following batsmen in common : Eddie Barlow Mike Macaulay Graeme Pollock Colin Bland Sydney Burke Peter Burge Tom Veivers Answer : All were dismissed by Geoff Boycott in test cricket. Now, Ronnie Irani is a much better bowler than Geoff (allegedly), so it just goes to show that anyone can be effective on his day.

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