Is Flintoff number 1?

[Scallywag]

Note, this also applies to Darren Lehmann!

Its only you marc that wont accept that Lehman is an allrounder.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Its only you marc that wont accept that Lehman is an allrounder.

It looks closer to being only you who thinks that he is an allrounder... that or a reflection of the fact that Australia haven't had an allrounder worthy of the name since, ooh, before I can remember. Keith Miller?

Lehmann's Bowling
Tests 20, Overs 123.2. Overs per game: 6.18
ODIs 105, Overs 242.2. Overs per game: 2.31
FC 239, Overs 1150.1. Overs per game: 4.81
ListA 321, Overs 779.4. Overs per game: 2.43

If he's an allrounder, so was Graham Gooch
Tests 118, Overs 442.3. Overs per game 3.75
ODIs 125, Overs 344.2. Overs per game 2.75
FC 581, Overs 3130.5. Overs per game 5.39
ListA 614, Overs 2384.4. Overs per game 3.88

 

[superkingdave]

ROFL - Goochie was up there with Botham

 

[Son Of Coco]

It looks closer to being only you who thinks that he is an allrounder... that or a reflection of the fact that Australia haven't had an allrounder worthy of the name since, ooh, before I can remember. Keith Miller?

And England haven't had a cricketer worthy of the name since.........

 

[marc71178]

Its only you marc that wont accept that Lehman is an allrounder.

Oh no it's not - if he were an all rounder he'd be bowling at least 7 overs per ODI and 10-15 per Test innings.

 

[Sanz]

Its only you marc that wont accept that Lehman is an allrounder.

common mate, Lehman isn't an allrounder. Can he get into the Australian side on his bowling alone ??

 

[marc71178]

And England haven't had a cricketer worthy of the name since.........

The subject of this thread looks pretty good to me.

 

[Son Of Coco]

The subject of this thread looks pretty good to me.

haha, I knew that would get a bite. Present players excluded of course, and anyone who's currently in form (Disclaimer: I consider someone who's currently in form to be anyone who's even managed to pass themselves off as a cricketer for one match in the last 6 years).

 

[Scallywag]

Gooch gave away 42 runs per wicket which is where most part time bowlers hover, do you know why Lehmann only gives away 25 runs per wicket. Lehmann takes wickets to win matches and Gooch bowled to use up overs.

 

[marc71178]

Gooch gave away 42 runs per wicket which is where most part time bowlers hover, do you know why Lehmann only gives away 25 runs per wicket.

Yes, he only ever bowls in helpful conditions because he's a part-timer and isn't used in all conditions, hence he's not an all rounder.