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Scoring rates and their influence on victories

thirdslip

Cricket Spectator

Andre

International Regular
Thirdslip;

While these are indeed excellent articles, it is against forum rules to advertise other sites on the forum. We've let a few slip under the radar, but please, don't only post links to another site.
 

thirdslip

Cricket Spectator
sure, I can understand that. I take it you mean that I mustn't post ONLY these articles, but participate in other ways too. I'd be happy to.

I'm hoping that some of the analytical techniques at Third Slip can benefit from suggestions from a community of fans and enthusiasts. Equally, we'd be happy to run calculations to answer specific questions from the gang.

Cheers,
- Ash

(here's the self-restraint: each month, i'll make a single collection of links to new stuff we've worked on, and make a single post on that. Otherwise, no other posts of mine will include links to the site).
 

a massive zebra

International Captain
I can provide some of the information which part 2 of this article needs for a more complete outlook.

Top innings Runs Balls S/R

1.1696 2004 Lara B.C West Indies Eng 400 582 68.7
2.1661 2003 Hayden M.L Australia Zim 380 437 87.0 ***
3.1259 1994 Lara B.C West Indies Eng 375 538 69.7
4.0450 1958 Sobers G.St.A West Indies Pak 365 0 0.0 (540)
5.0266 1938 Hutton L England Aus 364 844 43.1
6.1374 1997 Jayasuriya S.T Sri Lanka Ind 340 578 58.8
7.0446 1958 Hanif Mohammad Pakistan Win 337 0 0.0 (1000+)
8.0226 1933 Hammond W.R England Nzl 336 398 84.4
9.0196 1930 Bradman D.G Australia Eng 334 446 74.8
10.1426 1998 Taylor M.A Australia Pak 334 564 59.2
11.1148 1990 Gooch G.A England Ind 333 485 68.6
12.1600 2002 Inzamam-ul-Haq Pakistan Nzl 329 436 75.5 *
13.0193 1930 Sandham A England Win 325 640 50.7
14.0564 1964 Simpson R.B Australia Eng 311 740 42.0
15.0593 1965 Edrich J.H England Nzl 310 450 68.8
16.1693 2004 Sehwag V India Pak 309 375 82.4 **
17.0601 1966 Cowper R.M Australia Eng 307 589 52.1
18.0236 1934 Bradman D.G Australia Eng 304 466 65.2
19.0734 1974 Rowe L.G West Indies Eng 302 430 70.2
20.1162 1991 Crowe M.D New Zealand Slk 299 523 57.1
21.0215 1932 Bradman D.G Australia Saf 299 0 0.0
22.0781 1976 Richards I.V.A West Indies Eng 291 386 75.3
23.0078 1903 Foster R.E England Aus 287 0 0.0
24.0439 1957 May P.B.H England Win 285 0 0.0
25.1535 2001 Laxman V.V.S India Aus 281 452 62.2
 
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a massive zebra

International Captain
Batsman Scoring Rates

Some very accurate predictions based on all innings of over 80 played by some top batsmen. These figures are likely to overestimate the overall scoring rate of batsmen over their entire career, since for most batsmen an innings of 80 is an exceptional performance, in which they are likely to score at a higher rate than normal. Still very useful, and interesting, however.


Bradman 63
Sobers 55
Headley 47
Tendulkar 58
Hobbs 57
G Pollock 66
Hutton 42
Lara 67
Walcott 58
Barrington 42
S Waugh 52
Worrell 46
G Chappell 59
Javed 53
Border 46
Sutcliffe 41
Gavaskar 48
Hammond 51
V Richards 68
Weekes 63
Trumper 74
Nourse 47
Compton 52
Hill 69
Harvey 56
Walters 56
Boycott 40
Kanhai 52
Ranji 63
Gilchrist 91

It is surprising to see that Sobers in not among the higher echelons of quick scorers, and that Hill scored faster than Richards.
 
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thirdslip

Cricket Spectator
much appreciated. I appreciate the help. I would be happy to cite you as the source for the additional info, if you'd like that. Email me (contact@thirdslip.com) with what you'd like the citation to say, and I'll take care of it.

- Ash
 

Mr. P

International Vice-Captain
a massive zebra said:
Batsman Scoring Rates

Some very accurate predictions based on all innings of over 80 played by some top batsmen. These figures are likely to overestimate the overall scoring rate of batsmen over their entire career, since for most batsmen an innings of 80 is an exceptional performance, in which they are likely to score at a higher rate than normal. Still very useful, and interesting, however.


Bradman 63
Sobers 55
Headley 47
Tendulkar 58
Hobbs 57
G Pollock 66
Hutton 42
Lara 67
Walcott 58
Barrington 42
Waugh 52
Worrell 46
G Chappell 59
Javed 53
Border 46
Sutcliffe 41
Gavaskar 48
Hammond 51
V Richards 68
Weekes 63
Trumper 74
Nourse 47
Compton 52
Hill 69
Harvey 56
Walters 56
Boycott 40
Kanhai 52
Ranji 63

It is surprising to see that Sobers in not among the higher echelons of quick scorers, and that Hill scored faster than Richards. Could not find the figures for Gilchrist but I am sure he will top the lot.
Another demonstration of Bradmans brilliance. Remember, his method was to always hit the ball along the ground! Amazing that he could still be on top.
 

Slow Love™

International Captain
Mr. P said:
Another demonstration of Bradmans brilliance. Remember, his method was to always hit the ball along the ground! Amazing that he could still be on top.
I don't think he's top of the list - just the first player mentioned. Note amz's comment regarding Sobers, who appears second on the list. I think the numbers next to their names are strike rates.
 

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
75.82, which is lowered by the defensive innings he played in WI it would be 84.89 otherwize. I dont think Gilchrist has played an innings in similiar circumstances, you could say he is an 'anomoly' (in terms of this statistic) because the quality of the rest of his team ALWAYS gives him licence
 

Waughney

International Debutant
Not entirely. It's just because he never plays defensively eg. 5/99 v India, didn't defend when almost everyone else would've.
 

a massive zebra

International Captain
Slow Love™ said:
I don't think he's top of the list - just the first player mentioned. Note amz's comment regarding Sobers, who appears second on the list. I think the numbers next to their names are strike rates.
Yes you are right. Apologies for the rather random order.
 

a massive zebra

International Captain
marc71178 said:
Anyone know Flintoff's out of interest?
But he is by no means one of the all-time great batsmen. Just out of interest, Botham's estimated strike rate in scores over 80 is 74.6.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Waughney said:
Not entirely. It's just because he never plays defensively eg. 5/99 v India, didn't defend when almost everyone else would've.
Why play to a weakness if you can play to a strength?
It makes perfect sense for Gilchrist to try to hit out of trouble when that's the way he plays best.
If someone's game is to try to nudge out of trouble, do that. If it's to blast, blast.
Gilchrist, in my experince, isn't really capable of playing any other way.
 

Waughney

International Debutant
Richard said:
Why play to a weakness if you can play to a strength?
It makes perfect sense for Gilchrist to try to hit out of trouble when that's the way he plays best.
If someone's game is to try to nudge out of trouble, do that. If it's to blast, blast.
Gilchrist, in my experince, isn't really capable of playing any other way.
Exactly my thoughts. (Gilchrist probably does have the ability to defend though)
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Well, of course he can defend, but I don't think he'll ever play a long, defensive innings.
Not that Australia have been in a situation where they need to bat for 40 overs and cannot win for quite a while and certainly during his career.
But if he had to bat for 40 overs to save a game and Australia were following-on and still 100 behind I can't help doubting he'd be able to do it.
 

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