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    Scoring rates and their influence on victories

    Does scoring faster really improve a team's chances of winning? Which teams over the years have done the best in terms of scoring rates? Is Test cricket getting more exciting, and therefore attractive for in-stadium viewing? A comprehensive analysis of scoring rates in Test cricket.
    http://www.thirdslip.com/2004/may/tst-scorerate.shtm

    Followed by analysis of individual scoring rates.
    http://www.thirdslip.com/2004/may/tst-scorerate2.shtm

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    Thirdslip;

    While these are indeed excellent articles, it is against forum rules to advertise other sites on the forum. We've let a few slip under the radar, but please, don't only post links to another site.

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    sure, I can understand that. I take it you mean that I mustn't post ONLY these articles, but participate in other ways too. I'd be happy to.

    I'm hoping that some of the analytical techniques at Third Slip can benefit from suggestions from a community of fans and enthusiasts. Equally, we'd be happy to run calculations to answer specific questions from the gang.

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    (here's the self-restraint: each month, i'll make a single collection of links to new stuff we've worked on, and make a single post on that. Otherwise, no other posts of mine will include links to the site).

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    I can provide some of the information which part 2 of this article needs for a more complete outlook.

    Top innings Runs Balls S/R

    1.1696 2004 Lara B.C West Indies Eng 400 582 68.7
    2.1661 2003 Hayden M.L Australia Zim 380 437 87.0 ***
    3.1259 1994 Lara B.C West Indies Eng 375 538 69.7
    4.0450 1958 Sobers G.St.A West Indies Pak 365 0 0.0 (540)
    5.0266 1938 Hutton L England Aus 364 844 43.1
    6.1374 1997 Jayasuriya S.T Sri Lanka Ind 340 578 58.8
    7.0446 1958 Hanif Mohammad Pakistan Win 337 0 0.0 (1000+)
    8.0226 1933 Hammond W.R England Nzl 336 398 84.4
    9.0196 1930 Bradman D.G Australia Eng 334 446 74.8
    10.1426 1998 Taylor M.A Australia Pak 334 564 59.2
    11.1148 1990 Gooch G.A England Ind 333 485 68.6
    12.1600 2002 Inzamam-ul-Haq Pakistan Nzl 329 436 75.5 *
    13.0193 1930 Sandham A England Win 325 640 50.7
    14.0564 1964 Simpson R.B Australia Eng 311 740 42.0
    15.0593 1965 Edrich J.H England Nzl 310 450 68.8
    16.1693 2004 Sehwag V India Pak 309 375 82.4 **
    17.0601 1966 Cowper R.M Australia Eng 307 589 52.1
    18.0236 1934 Bradman D.G Australia Eng 304 466 65.2
    19.0734 1974 Rowe L.G West Indies Eng 302 430 70.2
    20.1162 1991 Crowe M.D New Zealand Slk 299 523 57.1
    21.0215 1932 Bradman D.G Australia Saf 299 0 0.0
    22.0781 1976 Richards I.V.A West Indies Eng 291 386 75.3
    23.0078 1903 Foster R.E England Aus 287 0 0.0
    24.0439 1957 May P.B.H England Win 285 0 0.0
    25.1535 2001 Laxman V.V.S India Aus 281 452 62.2
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    Batsman Scoring Rates

    Some very accurate predictions based on all innings of over 80 played by some top batsmen. These figures are likely to overestimate the overall scoring rate of batsmen over their entire career, since for most batsmen an innings of 80 is an exceptional performance, in which they are likely to score at a higher rate than normal. Still very useful, and interesting, however.


    Bradman 63
    Sobers 55
    Headley 47
    Tendulkar 58
    Hobbs 57
    G Pollock 66
    Hutton 42
    Lara 67
    Walcott 58
    Barrington 42
    S Waugh 52
    Worrell 46
    G Chappell 59
    Javed 53
    Border 46
    Sutcliffe 41
    Gavaskar 48
    Hammond 51
    V Richards 68
    Weekes 63
    Trumper 74
    Nourse 47
    Compton 52
    Hill 69
    Harvey 56
    Walters 56
    Boycott 40
    Kanhai 52
    Ranji 63
    Gilchrist 91

    It is surprising to see that Sobers in not among the higher echelons of quick scorers, and that Hill scored faster than Richards.
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    much appreciated. I appreciate the help. I would be happy to cite you as the source for the additional info, if you'd like that. Email me (contact@thirdslip.com) with what you'd like the citation to say, and I'll take care of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a massive zebra
    Batsman Scoring Rates

    Some very accurate predictions based on all innings of over 80 played by some top batsmen. These figures are likely to overestimate the overall scoring rate of batsmen over their entire career, since for most batsmen an innings of 80 is an exceptional performance, in which they are likely to score at a higher rate than normal. Still very useful, and interesting, however.


    Bradman 63
    Sobers 55
    Headley 47
    Tendulkar 58
    Hobbs 57
    G Pollock 66
    Hutton 42
    Lara 67
    Walcott 58
    Barrington 42
    Waugh 52
    Worrell 46
    G Chappell 59
    Javed 53
    Border 46
    Sutcliffe 41
    Gavaskar 48
    Hammond 51
    V Richards 68
    Weekes 63
    Trumper 74
    Nourse 47
    Compton 52
    Hill 69
    Harvey 56
    Walters 56
    Boycott 40
    Kanhai 52
    Ranji 63

    It is surprising to see that Sobers in not among the higher echelons of quick scorers, and that Hill scored faster than Richards. Could not find the figures for Gilchrist but I am sure he will top the lot.
    Another demonstration of Bradmans brilliance. Remember, his method was to always hit the ball along the ground! Amazing that he could still be on top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. P
    Another demonstration of Bradmans brilliance. Remember, his method was to always hit the ball along the ground! Amazing that he could still be on top.
    I don't think he's top of the list - just the first player mentioned. Note amz's comment regarding Sobers, who appears second on the list. I think the numbers next to their names are strike rates.
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    Yep, he's behind Hill, Richards and Pollock.
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    I'm not too dissimilar a batsman to Bradman.
    Both of us have batting averages below 100.

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    Ok, what's Gilchrist's strike-rate for scores over 80?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwigibo
    Ok, what's Gilchrist's strike-rate for scores over 80?
    90.98
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    75.82, which is lowered by the defensive innings he played in WI it would be 84.89 otherwize. I dont think Gilchrist has played an innings in similiar circumstances, you could say he is an 'anomoly' (in terms of this statistic) because the quality of the rest of his team ALWAYS gives him licence

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    Not entirely. It's just because he never plays defensively eg. 5/99 v India, didn't defend when almost everyone else would've.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slow Love™
    I don't think he's top of the list - just the first player mentioned. Note amz's comment regarding Sobers, who appears second on the list. I think the numbers next to their names are strike rates.
    Yes you are right. Apologies for the rather random order.

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