Simon Jones - International Failure?

[DJellett]

I have seen no reason why he should stay in the England side.
Please guys try to make me see the light.

[PY]

This pitch is dead as a dodo so I wouldn't base it on anything that you see in this Test. He's (along with Goughie) probably the best user of reverse swing when the conditions are right.

Plus he's just come back from another injury. He hasn't had a decent run since before Australia (who I still blame for his injury.....)

[DJellett]

Still where's -
Caddick
Harmison
Tudor
Bulbeck
Irani
ETC ETC

[PY]

Caddick - recovering from injury.
Harmison - playing.
Tudor - a heartless, whinging, arrogant but fairly talented. Thanks but no thanks.
Bulbeck - retired from FC cricket with a knee injury.
Irani - about 33 and crap.
Saggers - may have a point to make about not being included because this pitch isn't for the bang-it-in type.

Plus......if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[PY]

And Jones produces a snorter to dismiss Bravo. Though the pitch may have something to do with it.

[Swervy]

Still where's -
Caddick
Harmison
Tudor
Bulbeck
Irani
ETC ETC

Bulbeck????He might have been good on ICC game but hardly international class in real life

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

And Jones produces a snorter to dismiss Bravo. Though the pitch may have something to do with it.

The pitch may have had a lot to with it. It definitely hit a crack.

[PY]

I don't know, Bulbeck at the very start of his career was touted as having the potential to go all the way?!?!

OK, Liam, it had a big something to do with it. Happy?

[Dark Hunter]

It would be hard coming back from a knee reconstruction (is that what he had????). Why doesn't Dominic Cork get picked anymore???

[PY]

Jones or Bulbeck? Not that it matters because both of them had crock knees.

This is one of the few occasions where the contracted players not playing for counties is pretty bad in my opinion. Jones hasn't had a great deal of chance to bowl in past few weeks if my memory serves me correctly.

[Richard]

It would be hard coming back from a knee reconstruction (is that what he had????). Why doesn't Dominic Cork get picked anymore???

Because, sadly, he didn't produce the goods in 5 of his 6 most recent Test-matches.
And in the last two domestic seasons, while he's picked-up an acceptible number of wickets (still disappointing by his high standards) he's not been as accurate as he is at his best. Though last season that may have had something to do with a chipped bone in his ankle that he played with for two-thirds of the season.

[Richard]

I don't know, Bulbeck at the very start of his career was touted as having the potential to go all the way?!?!

So have plenty of people down the years in England.
Most of them end-up with as poor records as Bulbeck did.

[DJellett]

What other good English quicks are there?

[Richard]

And Jones produces a snorter to dismiss Bravo. Though the pitch may have something to do with it.

Frankly, no bowler can possibly deserve any credit whatsoever for a ball like that.
They talk about the Hoggard ball to Richardson - this topped it.
Think, on a pitch showing no more than occasional signs of slight unevenness, a ball pitches on a full length and flies past your shoulder, taking the glove.
Not a good length - occasionally you will see balls from tall bowlers flying like that off a good, slightly short, length - we are talking about a short bowler, off a full length.
That ball was a freak the like of which I have never seen before - even in the brief highlights of Jamaica '98.

[PY]

Jones is far from short. He's about 6 foot 3 inches if not more.

I didn't credit him with so you can keep your tighty whites on, I just said he produced (which he did) a snorter. The pitch did it but he still bowled the bloody thing.