Stratergic ways of beating Australia

[nookie_lk]

what kind of stratergies should other teams use to beat the world champions ? what do u think ? any good ideas ?

 

[Swervy]

what kind of stratergies should other teams use to beat the world champions ? what do u think ? any good ideas ?

get better players and score more runs than Australia

 

[nookie_lk]

wasnt expecting such a lazy answer

 

[Sehwag309]

Match them in every department

 

[Swervy]

wasnt expecting such a lazy answer

well there isnt much more to say....talent is the key...then when a team has that you start playing Australia with a strategy.

Traditionally good spin bowling was important against them, but they have shown in the last year that they are pretty good at playing againt that as well.

 

[nookie_lk]

the plan should be working on the weeknesses of the players... by working on individual players i think any team could do better against the aussies. the are human...so they definitely have weeknesses.

concentrating on weeknesses of players like gilchrist, hayden, martin, and ponting would help alot to the opposition.

 

[Mr. P]

Mate it may not seem like it but believe me teams DO work on the weaknesses of each player. This is international standard cricket!!!!!

 

[Waughney]

Copy Steve Fleming, devise individual plans, attack at every oppurtunity (ie agressive feilds etc.) and try to beat us Aussies at our own game.

 

[Loony BoB]

Wait five or so years. Apparently their youth don't do quite as well as their senior international side in comparison to the other test playing nations. Keep players interested so they don't leave for other jobs and sports before they're established in the game. I think a lot of nations out there suffer because of this (Australia included, mind you). But then that'll always happen, really.

 

[Tim]

I think alot of teams get suckered in watching Australia score runs quickly so they then believe they have to do the same & then fall over.
You've got to be your own team against Australia or else you'll never win.

 

[Arjun]

1. Australian batsmen like the ball coming on the bat at a good pace, and if the ball is not coming too fast, and isn't moving, they'll hit it for a four or six. The bowlers should not go for pace, but just go for seam movement or swing. Better yet, if spin bowling is a team's main bowling strength, they should play two spinners. If pace bowling is a weakness, they should not play more than two seamers.
2. Whenever Gilchrist succeeds, the team wins. Getting him out is the key. Then, the opposition is in the game. The ball should be bowled on the stumps and a few variations will also work. The same can be said about Symonds too.
3. NEVER allow a partnership to build. If they're getting runs in singles, STOP THE SINGLES. This is where good fielding makes a difference. Bowl on the stumps.
4. FIELDING.....don't give away those extra runs. Convert 4's to 3's, 3's to 2's, 2's to 1's, and bowl dot balls very often. Make the batsmen take risks.
5. Think twice before making a bowlign change- except if the captain's Nasser Hussain.
6. Don't hammer their attack out of the ground from the onset. Chances are, a few early wickets will be lost. If the attack is in good form, score runs in singles and run hard.
7. Wait for the spinners/bit bowlers to come and look for scoring opportunities against them.
8. A powerful six hitter, expecially Gayle, Flintoff or Cairns, is definitely needed. Not everyone can play like them. The rest should just occupy the crease.
9. The Australians, as a bowling side, have one major weakness- partnerships. At least one big partnership is required.

No doubt this should actually be put in practice and the results may not appear, but the team will compete rather well, if not dominate them. In short, a team playing the Australins has to attack, but stick to the basics.

 

[Swervy]

1. Australian batsmen like the ball coming on the bat at a good pace, and if the ball is not coming too fast, and isn't moving, they'll hit it for a four or six. The bowlers should not go for pace, but just go for seam movement or swing. Better yet, if spin bowling is a team's main bowling strength, they should play two spinners. If pace bowling is a weakness, they should not play more than two seamers........
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2. The Australians, as a bowling side, have one major weakness- partnerships. At least one big partnership is required.

No doubt this should actually be put in practice and the results may not appear, but the team will compete rather well, if not dominate them. In short, a team playing the Australins has to attack, but stick to the basics.

makes it sound so easy

 

[Arjun]

makes it sound so easy

It happens. They play spinners well, but the spinners can compete- the medium-pacers are out of the match really quickly. Besides, there are quite a few instances where a partnership puts the Australian team under pressure, especially if it's a large one, such as that one in Adelaide.

 

[Swervy]

It happens. They play spinners well, but the spinners can compete- the medium-pacers are out of the match really quickly. Besides, there are quite a few instances where a partnership puts the Australian team under pressure, especially if it's a large one, such as that one in Adelaide.

i agree...

 

[tooextracool]

I think alot of teams get suckered in watching Australia score runs quickly so they then believe they have to do the same & then fall over.
You've got to be your own team against Australia or else you'll never win.

yep i agree with you there.....thats precisely what NZ did in 01

 

[tooextracool]

The ball should be bowled on the stumps and a few variations will also work.
[*]NEVER allow a partnership to build. If they're getting runs in singles, STOP THE SINGLES. This is where good fielding makes a difference. Bowl on the stumps.

now im not sure if any team in the world doesnt try to do that!

 

[nookie_lk]

tooextracool...mate ur murali murali thigy is getting a bit boring now...next time try to make something original without copying whatever the barmy army says...(boo)

i think to trouble ausies batsmen, bowlers should try to cut down the flow of runs and make the ausie batsman make mistakes. a good example was during the ICC champions throphy VS Sri Lanka(semi final) hayden and gilchrist were playing well against the opening bowlers with a high run rate. then soon as Aravinda cut down the runs they started making mistakes and got out. that made all bowlers to succeed and win the match for SL.

 

[marc71178]

makes it sound so easy

Well it's easy to remove Hayden, so that's 1 down immediately!

 

[Arjun]

now im not sure if any team in the world doesnt try to do that!

Not the Indian team- they just try for pace that they don't have. Not the English team- at least not Anderson- though Caddick was not too bad. Not the West Indians- this current pace attack isn't capable of doing it. Not SA- except Pollock and Ntini. Probably NZ do- without power.

 

[Richard]

It's not overtly complicated - take 20 wickets and score more runs than them.
The trouble is, it's easier said than done.
Some batsmen have clear weaknesses against certain bowling, the odd batsman (eg Martyn) have weaknesses in certain shots, so feed them.
One thing, Fleming's strategies in 2001\02 as far as getting batsmen out cheaply were somewhat overrated. No batsman fell flat on their faces, even Martyn, and Gilchrist, Hayden, Langer and Ponting all improved their records that series.
With the batting it's a bit easier but so many batting-line-ups put themselves under so much pressure with bad psychology (no, the bowlers DON'T create the pressure) that you still see stacks of failures.
Basically if there's seam-movement in the pitch you haven't got a prayer because McGrath, Gillespie and Kasprowicz will destroy you almost every time, but if there's not you've got as good a chance as you could wish for - all you need is patience.
Certainly setting-out to score at 4-an-over against a full-strength Australian attack will, almost without fail, get you into deep trouble.
Equally if you bowl with good seamers on a seaming wicket or good spinners on a turning wicket, you've got a very good chance of bowling them out cheaply.
If you've got a flat pitch and a load of fingerspinners and one-dimensional seamers, look-out, basically. They'll score 5 or 600 more often than not.
But there's no big secret, it's just like anyone else - to beat them you have to play better cricket than them. Your best chance is to have a talented, settled side. Though having said that some of the best performances recently have come through glorified spontaneity (promoting Laxman to three, recalling Harbhajan, turning the whole Sri Lankan Board over in 1999\2000).
So often recently problems have come through injury and dropped catches. That's the biggest key of all IMO - it doesn't matter what else you do, if you don't hold at least 90% of your catches you've not got a prayer. If you hold more than 95%, you've got a pretty good chance, especially if the few you drop are off tailenders.