Indias Choker Ranking!.

[alexkumar]

Indian bowling blows. Pathan may be ok , he is not strike bowler yet.

Balaji dude need to get his strength , he do not have balance in anything. He is huffing and puffing. He does n't have control at all.

Zaheer khan may not be his usual self. As of now , he is not playin well at all.

He has to prove domestic cricket for a while before selcting him again.

Back to Indian batting ,

Indian players does n't have mental strength to tough it out. Indians never had a will to win as a habit.

The current problem with Indian batting is , Ganguly wants to open , Tendulkar whining like a baby to bat first so he can score some runs. He has n't played well any other place except opening. That too against to weak opposition.

To have a good One Day Team , Every player has to excel in two roles. That is the depth of the Team.

Indians are always lazy fielders.

Indian players are selected by reputation and politics. That is not a way to select players.

India need one wicket keeper / Good batsman (parthiv patel is awful wk , awful batsman). He has to prove in domestic cricket before anyone should select him. Bad selection.

India desperately need Fast Bowling Good Alrounder to win Big One day matches as indian team is lacking in strike bowling.

Finally Indians need to learn killer Instinct. They lacks that big time.

later.

 

[Craig]

I don't think he was criticising him...

Oh I know that.

I was actually agreeing with him that Dravid should go out there and want to win every game.

 

[Arjun]

It not a matter of having all rounders, it's a matter of bowling, which they are improving on. Even Australia doesn't have a true all rounder.

The Australian team have an all-rounder of a different kind- Gilchrist. Even Symonds, Lee and the now discarded (for no real reason) Bichel are capable all-rounders.

About the bowling, they just have to cut out the wides (especailly Balaji) and no-balls. They have their problems, but would they perform just as badly playing for New Zealand or Australia? The superior fielding of these sides would help them a lot- and every other bowler. Rather than blame the bowlers, the fielders should be held responsible.

 

[delkap]

It does n't matter whether you are aussie or an outsider. The fact is Indian team chokes.

If they want to be even close second to aussie , they have to play tough.

Every one knows India's strength is its Batting. And that batting is always under pressure because of pathetic Indian bowling (below average -- worst than UAE bowling).

No Team in the world more under pressure than INDIAN batting because of its awful bowling.

That being said, if you are a MASTER batsman , you have to show up when TEAM needs you.

So far Tendulkar is always MIA in every BIG occasion. Tendulkar is pathetic batsman. Yeah Yeah i have heard enough of Tendulkar exploits on bad teams and when things are not that urgent.

Kaif is not half talented as VVS laxman but that guy applies himself every time INDIA needs him. That is a mark of TEAM player.

I do think indian team needs an alrounder as its bowling is very awful now.

All this senior players is lazy and does n't field well.

I can gurantee now itself , Australia will beat the crap out of INDIA in INDIA if some thing does n't change.

Indians are always over confident in inapporitiate time.

This Indian Team is LAZY and lacks mental tougness.

If they want to be comfortable fourth in the world , then they are at home.

If they want to be No.1 in the world , i am not seeing any signs of it.

later

Do you want me to produce a complete list of when Sachin made runs?? He scores and people think its normal, he fails and u say he choked !!! What the ??
Go and look how many matches has he won .... Also I think he holds the record for most Man of Match awards...

 

[Nate]

The Australian team have an all-rounder of a different kind- Gilchrist. Even Symonds, Lee and the now discarded (for no real reason) Bichel are capable all-rounders.

gilchrist yes is an all-rounder.
symonds probably.
bichel and lee are NOT. having a batting average of about 16 doesnt count.

alexkumar are you eight years old?? cause it seems you have a lot to learn about the indian cricket team and its ways...

and why.

keep typing.

like this?

Indian players are selected by reputation and politics. That is not a way to select players.

sounds like the way they picked the u/16 nsw squad... grrrrr

and for the record sachin has got motm in odis 49 times.

 

[delkap]

gilchrist yes is an all-rounder.
symonds probably.
bichel and lee are NOT. having a batting average of about 16 doesnt count.

alexkumar are you eight years old?? cause it seems you have a lot to learn about the indian cricket team and its ways...

and why.

keep typing.

like this?


sounds like the way they picked the u/16 nsw squad... grrrrr

and for the record sachin has got motm in odis 49 times.

Agree with every word...

Also the match with which this stupid argument was started was lost by 12 runs !! (Choked surely..)

 

[Jnr.]

Indians are always lazy fielders.

Yuvraj and Kaif are great fielders. Ganguly is often lethargic though.

India need one wicket keeper / Good batsman (parthiv patel is awful wk , awful batsman). He has to prove in domestic cricket before anyone should select him. Bad selection.

The guy has potential. It is probably a good thing that the selectors have chosen to blood him when there are a lot of experienced bats in the side.

India desperately need Fast Bowling Good Alrounder to win Big One day matches as indian team is lacking in strike bowling.

What is your obsession in having a fast bowling all rounder? If they pick 4 good, economical bowlers, it should be enough to win, because India has a very strong batting line up.

 

[delkap]

Just a fact on Sachin's record:

He has played 335 ODIs and India has won 166 of them. He has made more than 40 runs in 79 of those wins, that means in almost half of the victories he has made a sizable contribution. Also this is apart from the matches when he contributed and India still lost (eg 141 vs Aus in 98 and this year vs Pak). Of the 150 matches he has lost(rest were ties/no result), he has made above 40 in 41 games (almost 25%).

While losing he averages: 31.08 and on winning: 59.14.

This clearly shows he has been hugely responsible for Indian victories.
And 27 of his 37 hundreds are against countries other than Zimbabwe/Kenya/Namibia/Bangladesh etc Now 27 is actually more 100s (in ODI's) than anyone else in the world !!! 7 of these are vs Australia, and u said he picks on weak teams ...

Also 57 of his 66 half centuries are against proper test nations other than Zim and Ban.

I think just abt rests my case on the man's greatness !!! Any counter is welcome

 

[marc71178]

Parthiv Patel is unfit to even qualify for Hong Kong Team. he is there because of Indian Cricket Politics.

It's funny how it seems that most non-Indians rate this guy highly, but the Indian fans don't rate him!

 

[marc71178]

INDIAN TEAM LACKS TRUE ALL ROUNDERS!. Until india have 3 All rounders , Indian team can't win any big matches.

Aside from SA, and to an extent England and NZ, every side is lacking an All Rounder, and would be happpy with 1, let alone 3.

Pick 3, and you'll end up with the problem England had in the recent Natwest.

Bits and Pieces players.

 

[marc71178]

To have a good One Day Team , Every player has to excel in two roles.

Not necessarily - they have to be competent, but can be specialists.

Your reaction to one defeat is more bizarre than the way the English media has our Cricket in turmoil (have they forgotten that we've lost 2 Test's in the last 20?)

 

[marc71178]

Also the match with which this stupid argument was started was lost by 12 runs !! (Choked surely..)

I don't it can be called choking because they were always behind the rate, and never in a genuine position where they were on top, only to throw it away.

 

[Langeveldt]

who keeps starting these choker threads ???? maybe the words choker, chucker should be on the ban list.

Why? Because they cause difference in opinion?? Would you have underrated in the ban list too?

However, One loss against Sri Lanka, and the Indian fans (well this one), is already up in arms.. Sadly im not surprised at all, and its that mentality that will stop India ever becoming the best in the world...

 

[Langeveldt]

It's funny how it seems that most non-Indians rate this guy highly, but the Indian fans don't rate him!

I don't rate the guy at all... Dravid can keep for me, he is worth so many more runs even if he isnt as good a gloveman...

 

[alexkumar]

Yes , Tendulkar won lots of ODI except in big Tournament Finals.

He chokes every time in the final. Tell me one final in the last 10 years he singlehandedly won it for india?

I don't think so. he was always a choker. He just made runs when no one cared.

As far parthiv Patel , He blows. That guy is not even good Wk. Most of the reasons Indians suck because of BAD SELECTION by Selctors. India's selction is based upon geography. That its downfall. they want all the players from Bombay Team and delhi Team. It is pathetic. It has been like that for past 50 years.

There are more talented Wicket Keepers with better batting Talent in India , They selcted this dumb ass Patel. That shows what exactly Indian selectors want. They want their relatives in the Team , Like rohan Gavaskar or former cricketers relatives. It is pathetic.

This Indian Team blows.

There is only 4 people who is best in this Indian Team. Sehwag, Dravid, Kaif and Pathan(his mental attitude is good).

Rest all junk. Fillers.

Yeah, This team is good enough to be Average. Thats all. They may win here and there. Never going to win the World Cup. Never again until they these dumb asses field better.

Ganguly dumb ass try to over use DRAVID and does even BAT well. He is not even doing his role as a CAPTAIN well.

All indian batsman will playe better than in any other Team simply because other teams are structred well. The roles are defined clearly. To be a Batsman in Australian team is not that difficult because there is not musch pressure to score big because bowlers win most of their games.

Anyone supporting tendulkar are proven guilty of supporting mentally weak player. (kapil dev single handely won 1983 , Gavaskar won in 1985 benson hedges with his batting and captaincy. Tendulkar so far laid egg in every chance he got.)

Counter Response welcome.

later.

 

[Langeveldt]

Tendulkar = Junk.... filler???!

Another devils advocater?

 

[maxpower]

Why? Because they cause difference in opinion?? Would you have underrated in the ban list too?

However, One loss against Sri Lanka, and the Indian fans (well this one), is already up in arms.. Sadly im not surprised at all, and its that mentality that will stop India ever becoming the best in the world...

just do a search on those two words and you'll see how many threads ended locked.

 

[alexkumar]

Srilank bowler Meharoof is a find. He will be awsome fast bowler for SRILANKA.

I see Balaji is trying to do too much with the BALL and paying the price for WIDES.

Balaji has to stick to the line, the problem is , he does n't have the speed to bounce the ball or may be his delivery is faulty. Because some balls he bowls is FLAT and got hammered.

He need to learn from Kapil Dev and how to organise his deliveries. he need to keep bowling the same balls with more speed.

Pathan is bowling well.

Zaheer lost a step. His bowling was listless. May be he is not physically fit. I saw him bowling tired.

Indian Team is still bunch of chokers!.

later!.

 

[imranrabb]

yeah chokers.All chockers

 

[Langeveldt]

just do a search on those two words and you'll see how many threads ended locked.

Yeah agreed actually... There is always an opinion and a counter opinion, which is fair enough... And while most people leave it at that, they usually end off going at a tangent pretty quickly...