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    Ian Chappells World Eleven for the Super series

    Here it is:

    Virender Sehwag
    Stephen Fleming (captain)
    Rahul Dravid
    Brian Lara
    Sachin Tendulkar
    Jacques Kallis
    Sangakkara (wicket-keeper)
    Irfan Pathan
    Anil Kumble
    Shane Bond
    Muttiah Muralitharan

    12th man .Andrew Flintoff.

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    Im surprised he's left out the all-rounder Andrew Flintoff..and im even more surprised that Irfan Pathan gets in there!

    So he's decided to go with 2 spinners & just 2 quick bowlers with really only Kallis as the back-up.
    Personally I wouldn't pick that bowling attack..Bond has been out of test cricket for over a year & Pathan is very in-experienced.

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    http://www.htcricket.com/htcricket/7...015,879411.htm

    Here's Chappell's article & reasons for the team he selected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim
    Im surprised he's left out the all-rounder Andrew Flintoff..and im even more surprised that Irfan Pathan gets in there!

    So he's decided to go with 2 spinners & just 2 quick bowlers with really only Kallis as the back-up.
    Personally I wouldn't pick that bowling attack..Bond has been out of test cricket for over a year & Pathan is very in-experienced.

    2 spinners are ok vs Australia ,I think.

    Flintoff being left out puzzles me somewhat.

    And Irfan Pathan , guess Chappell thinks he will be one of the best in a years time .


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    Ah , this explains it then....
    quote from the article...I have chosen Kallis as the all-rounder just ahead of Flintoff but I have the feeling that the South African's bowling is on the wane while the Englishman is on an upward curve. If this is the case then I would play Flintoff and make Kallis twelfth man as a bowling all-rounder is more value than the batting variety..

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    Playing Bond & Pathan as the strike bowlers would be extremely risky IMO.
    Although if Bond comes back before then & hits form it would be justified...Pathan is still only 19 or 20 and probably needs another few years yet.

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    VVS Laxman must be one of the most unluckiest players not to make the XI.

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    heres a little quote "Fleming gets the nod ahead of Michael Vaughan, Graeme Smith or Herschelle Gibbs because a good captain is imperative and the Kiwi skipper is the only one who plays Australia at their own game."

    a good captain is imperative?what about 2 genuine openers??
    how anyone could select pathan and bond ahead of the likes of pollock & harmison is beyone belief really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deja moo
    Ah , this explains it then....
    quote from the article...I have chosen Kallis as the all-rounder just ahead of Flintoff but I have the feeling that the South African's bowling is on the wane while the Englishman is on an upward curve. If this is the case then I would play Flintoff and make Kallis twelfth man as a bowling all-rounder is more value than the batting variety..
    well he has only gone in with 2 frontline fast bowlers, one terribly inexperienced and unproven and the other who still hasnt recovered completely from injury and has just modified his action.

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    That said, Kallis cannot be counted out- he has a very good Test and ODI bowling record. Even then, with Sangakkara as a keeper, he has to have 5 genuine bowlers.

    Just because a bowler is inexperienced doesn't mean he's not a good bowler, does it? Williams, Bracken, Harmison, Butler and Best have proven that, so why not Pathan?

    Pollock's exclusion is also strange, and so is that of Laxman. A more reliable keeper like Mark Boucher would also help the spinners.
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    you would be the only person to call bracken,williams,butler and best as proven......pathan has only played 2 series, while harmison has played since 02 and harmison has enjoyed quite a bit of success as opposed to pathan's average of 38?

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    my thoughts are chappell is an idiot, for someone who achieved so much in cricket and has a "well respected" media personality covering the game, he really has no idea.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deja moo
    Thoughts ?

    Did this need a seperate thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tooextracool
    heres a little quote "Fleming gets the nod ahead of Michael Vaughan, Graeme Smith or Herschelle Gibbs because a good captain is imperative and the Kiwi skipper is the only one who plays Australia at their own game."

    a good captain is imperative?what about 2 genuine openers??
    how anyone could select pathan and bond ahead of the likes of pollock & harmison is beyone belief really.
    I don't know about Pathan at all, but as for Fleming, it's quite true that he knows and can read Australia's game better than any other captain and he is the kind of guy that can win games by being a captain rather than a batsman. Also, as of late, he's not what anyone would call a shabby batsman at all - although I would argue that you could use him in a different position, but I'm not really that fussed because the way he's developing as an opener has been promising if anything.

    As for Bond, well, I'm guessing that he's assuming that Bond will continue his previous form once he's better. If he does continue it then he deserves his spot because he can bowl Australia out better than any other bowler in world cricket. That should be for sure. Having said that, I can't see why Harmison wouldn't be the man to partner him. I'm guessing it's because Chappy wanted Murali in the team (with good reason) and he didn't want to have three straight tailenders in the squad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broncoman
    my thoughts are chappell is an idiot, for someone who achieved so much in cricket and has a "well respected" media personality covering the game, he really has no idea.....
    I couldn't agree more. The only thing Ian Chappell has ever been right about is the horrible state of Australian immigration policy. Get him near a cricket match, and forget it. At least Mark Taylor has the sense to seemingly not be able to say anything intelligible. Cricket journalism would benefit greatly if they both vanished from the face of the earth.

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