Great Spinners are Tricky

[roseboy64]

Who are the best spinners ever for each Test playing nation?To start off:

West Indies - Alf Valentine,Sonny Ramahdin
Sri Lanka - Muttiah Muralitharan(deserthe wickets)
Australia - Shane Warne
India - Anil Kumble

Please complete the list.More can be added to each nation.

 

[badgerhair]

England: CWL Parker.

Cheers,

Mike

 

[Raj123]

For india i think its more like bedi, chandra, prasanna and then kumble.

 

[shankar]

For india i think its more like bedi, chandra, prasanna and then kumble.

Maybe even Subhash Gupte

 

[Waughney]

Add Bill O'Reilly to the Australia list

 

[Jamee999]

England: Jim Laker

 

[Kenny]

Phil Edmonds and John Emburey weren't bad were they? Especially in tandem.....

 

[a massive zebra]

England: CWL Parker.

He hardly played for England and was not even considered Test class. How you rate his as England's best spinner ever is beyond me but of course the patronising, up himself badgerhair is always right.

If you were ignorantly selecting him on his county record then pick Hedley Verity, who was also an outstanding Test bowler.

 

[a massive zebra]

Australia: Bill O'Reilly
Bangladesh: Mohammad Rafique
England: Jim Laker
India: Anil Kumble
New Zealand: Hedley Howarth
Pakistan: Saqlain Mustaq
South Africa: Hugh Tayfield
Sri Lanka: Muttiah Muralitharan (by several miles)
West Indies: Lance Gibbs
Zimbabwe: Paul Strang

 

[a massive zebra]

Maybe even Subhash Gupte

IMO Subhash Gupte is overrated.

Look at his Test record against the best teams of his time:

v Australia 3 96.3 263 8 32.87 3/89 2.72 72.3 0 0
v England 8 326.4 903 24 37.62 5/90 2.76 81.6 1 0
v West Indies 10 642 1716 49 35.02 9/102 2.67 78.6 4 1

And against the worst:

v New Zealand 5 356.4 669 34 19.67 7/128 1.87 62.9 4 0

It appears that he was not the bowler some people like to believe and only has a good Test record because New Zealand were so weak. Even then his record is still worse than a number of other Indian spinners. I would pick Kumble, Bedi, Chandra, Hardhajan and Prasanna above him.

 

[Pedro Delgado]

He hardly played for England and was not even considered Test class. How you rate his as England's best spinner ever is beyond me but of course the patronising, up himself badgerhair is always right.

If you were ignorantly selecting him on his county record then pick Hedley Verity, who was also an outstanding Test bowler.

The question didn't mention that they had to have played a lot of Test cricket though, so CWL would be up there as an Englishman.

I'll mention Derek Underwood seeing as Emburey has been endorsed.

 

[Nate]

New Zealand: Vettori...

 

[a massive zebra]

The question didn't mention that they had to have played a lot of Test cricket though, so CWL would be up there as an Englishman.

If they did not play much Test cricket then they were obviously nowhere near the best of their time, leave alone the best ever.

 

[Kenny]

I'll mention Derek Underwood seeing as Emburey has been endorsed.

Yeah Underwood is a fair call - forgot about him.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

West Indies - Alf Valentine,Sonny Ramahdin

Er Lance Gibbs?!? The finest spinner the region has produced by leaps and bounds.

 

[bennyr]

Australia: Bill O'Reilly
Bangladesh: Mohammad Rafique
England: Jim Laker
India: Anil Kumble
New Zealand: Hedley Howarth
Pakistan: Saqlain Mustaq
South Africa: Hugh Tayfield
Sri Lanka: Muttiah Muralitharan (by several miles)
West Indies: Lance Gibbs
Zimbabwe: Paul Strang

Looks pretty good to me.

 

[Langeveldt]

Australia - Shane Warne
Bangladesh - Enamul Haque
England - Jim Laker
India - Bhagwat Chandrasekhar
New Zealand - ?
Pakistan - Saqlain Mushtaq
South Africa - Hugh Tayfield
Sri Lanka - Murali
West Indies - Sonny Ramadhin
Zimbabwe - Paul Strang

 

[Neil Pickup]

Er, Haque? Over Rafique?

 

[Langeveldt]

Er, Haque? Over Rafique?

You saw it
Agree with the rest?

 

[Neil Pickup]

I was looking at asking you to justify picking someone with 18 Test wickets @ 57.05 over someone with 46 @ 31.60...