*Official* England in New Zealand 2019

[thierry henry]

This is honestly getting bonkers, 5 seconds ago we had this super great pace attack with a right arm swing bowler, left arm swing bowler who is a bit quicker, followed by a floaty medium paced right arm nibbler and a one-of-a-kind left arm into-the-wicket bounce bowler.

Now Lockie Ferguson exists and they all suck and all bowl the same. It's wild how cricket hot takes never evolve.

 

[91Jmay]

What do we reckon a competitive score is? 350 onwards?

 

[Athlai]

This is honestly getting bonkers, 5 seconds ago we had this super great pace attack with a right arm swing bowler, left arm swing bowler who is a bit quicker, followed by a floaty medium paced right arm nibbler and a one-of-a-kind left arm into-the-wicket bounce bowler.

Now Lockie Ferguson exists and they all suck and all bowl the same. It's wild how cricket hot takes never evolve.

Quicks get clicks.

 

[NZTailender]

NZT I'm unimpressed by you running this "you're not allowed to bowl in the 130s" narrative just ftr

(and although it's completely meaningless I also note Boult has been hitting low 140s today anyway)

It's a "you're not allowed to bowl in the 130s with no movement or plan" narrative ftr. Colin bowls below 120 at times but wobbles it and gets wickets.

135 gun barrel straight on Australian pitches is batting practice.

 

[thierry henry]

What do we reckon a competitive score is? 350 onwards?

Of course 350 is competitive, but it would be pretty disastrous for you to only get 350 from here.

 

[Pothas]

Ah ****.

 

[Athlai]

It's a "you're not allowed to bowl in the 130s with no movement or plan" narrative ftr. Colin bowls below 120 at times but wobbles it and gets wickets.

135 gun barrel straight on Australian pitches is batting practice.

Please keep posting

 

[Hicheal Michael]

Pope the next Ramprakash.

 

[thierry henry]

It's a "you're not allowed to bowl in the 130s with no movement or plan" narrative ftr. Colin bowls below 120 at times but wobbles it and gets wickets.

135 gun barrel straight on Australian pitches is batting practice.

So Southee and Boult have lost their bowling skill then? C'mon man

FTR I could cop replacing Southee with Ferguson in Australian conditions as I agree Southee hasn't tended to be at his best there.

However, if Southee got picked it would hardly be a baffling selection, and it's also a massive call to just assume that Ferguson can do a better 3rd seamer job than Wagner based on zero evidence.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

That was dire.

 

[NUFAN]

Not the first pope to play at balls that he should leave alone.

 

[thierry henry]

Keep floating 'em up there Timmy boi

 

[nzfan]

Couldn't have asked for a better start today. Both the wickets were to a wide enough ball but our lads have shown good discipline. It could have been goodbye test match if England batted without losing a wicket for the first hour.

 

[nzfan]

One more for Southee, LBW perhaps. We're not going to see Lockie next test match either but that's fine. Southee on the cusp of 5 fer here.

 

[91Jmay]

I was just about to post I'd take 350 before Pope got out. 300 will be tough now, Archer shown nothing as a test bat.

 

[thierry henry]

Of course 350 is competitive, but it would be pretty disastrous for you to only get 350 from here.

This is fkn genius posting tbh

 

[91Jmay]

Stokes fault for that dire shot ftr.

 

[Athlai]

The rarest form of 6outhee today guys

 

[Hicheal Michael]

White ball legend Tim Southee getting it done in the long form. Great stuff.

 

[ataraxia]

Well low 130s is gonna work on NZ pitches.